My guess is that an original reason Iowa State was left off is that he is beginning to view us as competition. Otz recruits Wisconsin heavily, and thus I imagine he is a bit afraid of Iowa State becoming competitive and beating them for recruits.
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Not quite. Scholarships are committed for only a year. There is no four/five year guarantee for the player. Oh, yeah, then there is the fact the coach can leave at anytime.
Bo is also a professional earning a living as opposed to an amatuer receiving an education. And not to make this an amaturism/NCAA is phony discussion, but there is a big difference between coaches taking a new job and students switching schools when that school is being paid for by others.
Maybe a rule that if a player transfers they have to payback 50% of the scholorship received to the former school would be a start. Certainly makes deciding where to go and considering the desire to leave much more meaningful.
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Funny, job hopping is accepted, professional behavior, but students transferring is a breach of contract. Are others not paying for the coaches salary? Are other non-athlete transfer students' education not partially funded by others?
As long as the player does not transfer to a program on the upcoming schedules, this is really not that different than a player leaving your program for the NBA.
Hmm....
A year is a long time to a kid. I wouldnt make light of sitting out a year watching your buddies play while you rot on the scout team. That cannot be very much fun.
One would think. Based on the # of transfers, there sure are a lot of people voluntarily choosing not very much fun.
We are talking about mostly 17 and 18 year old kids making these decisions. They do they best they can with the information at hand. How many non-athlete students end up changing schools? Many scholarship athletes would never be able to afford paying back half a scholarship especially when they can't hold a job while on scholarship. Isn't it enough of a deterrent to say they have to sit out a year and burn one of their five years? Sometimes it just isn't a good fit and there is no reason to punish both/either the team and the player in those situations.
What about poor fits where the team pushes the player out? Those happen too and the team or coach is not penalized. Generally the player either has to go non-division 1 or still pay the price of sitting out and one of their five years even when the coach tells them that it isn't working and the player would be better off somewhere else or even in extreme cases I am not renewing your scholarship next year.
Look, I get it when a coach says "not in our conference" or even "not on our schedule", but just nixing anyone who the player has an interest in is petty and vindictive. He will pay for this on the recruiting trail in the end.
I'm fine with players choosing to transfer. Just like schools often will gently push players out of the door if they're not good enough to play at that level.
Well they can do what normal people who go to college and cant pay for it do. Loan. They get to take their credits from the previous institution, but what did the instituion get for their investment?
And punishment probably isnt the right word, how about deterrent? From the looks of it, we may never see a player start at one school and finish there ever again. Well except maybe Bubu (think there is any correlation that he pays his own way?) A guy like Ejim should transfer. Get an extra year of school paid (graduate level) and still have four years to play in your career.
I say that in jest as I want no part of Ejim transfering, but some of these players act like they didnt choose the school initially. And if they truly feel they didnt properly choose the school they selected (a la Blaylock), well then we have a much bigger problem than transferring.
Bo Ryan is a jerk
Iowa State and the ACC should not be on the list.
The Big 10 doesnt matter because the kid would have to pay his own way to go there.
Marquette I understand,
Iowa State and the ACC should not be on the list.
The Big 10 doesnt matter because the kid would have to pay his own way to go there.
Marquette I understand,
It's a good thing that these guys have choices. There are already deterrents from transferring in place and there doesn't need to be any more. Why make the 18 year old kid more accountable that the coach and the school. The school can pull his scholarship without any penalties and the coach can leave whenever he feels like it with zero penalties. The kid gets an education and the school gets to make money off of him playing bball.
I'm glad the decisions I made as an 18 year old weren't written in stone for the next 4-5 years of my life.
He could go to Kirkwood play there for a year. Graduate then transfer to IOWA ISU the ACC or anywhere he wants to go!
I would almost like to see him do that and go to another Big 10 school and beat Ryan 2 or 3 times a year!
I would almost like to see him do that and go to another Big 10 school and beat Ryan 2 or 3 times a year!
You are absolutely right. The institutions get absolutely NOTHING for paying for an athlete to be on the team for just one year. In fact, I think Royce White should refund ISU for tuition and expenses because he only played for one year before jumping to the NBA. ISU got absolutely NOTHING for investing in him to play for only one year. It's not like college sports is a business, right?
Get a grip man.
Normal students, even those on scholarship, transfer. Coaches leave. Players lose their scholarships. Guys turn pro after a year or two. It happens on both ends.
And if you had asked Fred last year he would tell you that they got nothing from him the year he had to sit out and only practice on the scout team, too.
(Reaches for something... ANYTHING! that will provide grip)
As I said above I agree that Bo is being a sour **** on this. I just think it is beneficial to look at these things from both sides. The big question is why did JU go to Wisky in the first place?
Surely the NCAA is concerned with students committing to and transfering from schools solely for athletic reasons.
Surely the NCAA is concerned with students committing to and transfering from schools solely for athletic reasons.
I'm cynically convinced only to the extent it hurts their bottom line or image.
Matt Thomas will notice this. It's pretty much in the bag it this point. How can you respect a man like that? The kid is eighteen years old and your telling him he cannot go back to his home state to play basketball and receive an education? Bo = BOoooooo!!!!!!
