UCF says ESPN owns everything.

KnappShack

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Honestly, Texas should do something similar to what we've done. Take their content and find an online provider and sell their own T3 subscriptions. My dad's a graduate and would love to watch the occasional UT game (the guy would watch just about any sport) but balks at the Longhorn Network cable packages (he lives outside of the Texas bubble). I'd get him a one-year subscription for UT like we have in a heartbeat as a Christmas or Birthday present if they offered it.

Isn't it availabe on the ESPN app?
 

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The conference must be a lot better than the media lets on because this is the 2nd article in as many days discussing a school wanting to join.

I could have done without this little footnote. If you want respect, maybe offer some as well.

Iowa State sells all of its third-tier rights to its own digital network, ostensibly because no TV network wants anything from Iowa State. So they technically don’t have a true cable partner.
Guess they don't realize B12 schools own their third tier rights and monetizes them.
 

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I worked for several over the air broadcasters and I watched how cable came in and eliminated the need for "over-the-air" TV. The original group of broadcasters who built that TV system kept saying how nothing will every replace this great TV delivery system. Cable TV executives kept hounding Congress to change laws so that they could thrive and eliminate competition and crowed about how the whole world will be "wired." Today, pay services are delivered wirelessly to your phone, laptop and big-screen TV.

In my opinion, the Big 12 and Iowa State are in a very good place to watch how the broadcast/narrowcast landscape is changing and understand how it can take advantage of these changes. So what if the "traditional" tele-casting model goes away. I say we develop our product at ISU and utilize the technology that delivers our athletic product in a way that people want to use it. Being ISU and creating the best brand possible is the only thing we can control in this world and if we do that we don't have to hear about how ISU can't find a conference home or that our third tier rights are junk.

We are a big school in a power conference with a growing athletic budget and an alumni base that will follow us everywhere. It's time to lead and show how the new media can be an asset in ways we've never thought of.
 

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Is UCF just now realizing that ESPN is a big player, and that all of this non-profit college sports thing is about making boatloads of cash?
It's not like this was ever a legitimate scholastic thing. It's always been this, just with bigger #s now. They aren't naive enough to miss that, or they wouldn't have pushed to have a major football program (or whatever they are).

Enjoy the National Championship. You earned it.
It would be nice to see this all change to something more legitimate, but that won't happen until the money dries up.
 

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y'all can continue to put UCF down, just like others put ISU down, but UCF is the 2nd largest university after Arizona, bigger than tOSU. UCF is a very high-quality academic school and an up and coming athletic school. I'd take UCF to the big 12 over dwindling schools like Cincinnati or Memphis any day. With that amount of alumni pumping out, the fan base will grow fast.
 
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y'all can continue to put UCF down, just like others put ISU down, but UCF is the 2nd largest university after Arizona, bigger than tOSU. UCF is a very high-quality academic school and an up and coming athletic school. I'd take UCF to the big 12 over dwindling schools like Cincinnati or Memphis any day. With that amount of alumni pumping out, the fan base will grow fast.

If they have so many fans why don't they care more about their team?
 
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If the Big IIXII were forward thinking :)biglaugh:), they would already be in talks with Amazon or Google for distributing all of their content.
It's more than the online distribution for pollard. It is about the recruiting advantage of having every non revenue sport televised (online or mediacom). Learfield operates CTV and Pays ISU for all teir 3 media and Mediacom pays a hefty sponsorship for exclusive rights to broadcast CTV to Learfield. Selling to a network or cable channel may be slighy more profitable but then only a fraction of non revenue sports would ever be shown and all rights would be sold. Remember the Directors cup matters to Jamie and this is a selling point to parents that want to watch their kid compete.
 

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In 2017 an 8-5 ISU football averaged 57,931 in attendance (3rd in Big 12 and 27th in the Nation).

In 2017 a 13-0 UCF Football team averaged 36,082 in attendance (2nd in the AAC and 60th in the Nation).

**** UCF.

Unfortunately, when is comes to media contracts you don't have to follow a team to be counted. All you need to do is own a TV and live near by. How do you think Rutgers got invited to the Big Ten??
 

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Pac 12 fball was dead last of all P5 in performance and revenue and this is like 3 years running..

I'm guessing in next 2-3 years coupe things will happen...Texas fball will be relevant again and several P12 schools will be looking to leave..
 
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Pac 12 fball was dead last of all P5 in performance and revenue and this is like 3 years running..

I'm guessing in next 2-3 years coupe things will happen...Texas fball will be relevant again and several P12 schools will be looking to leave..

I'm confused, none of this fits the "Big 12 is on life support" narrative that the national media rams down our throats.
 

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In 2017 an 8-5 ISU football averaged 57,931 in attendance (3rd in Big 12 and 27th in the Nation).

In 2017 a 13-0 UCF Football team averaged 36,082 in attendance (2nd in the AAC and 60th in the Nation).

**** UCF.

At a larger university in the middle of a major metro area.
 

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At a larger university in the middle of a major metro area.

How's that working for Rutgers? I get the point that people are making and frankly if forced to add members, there are worse options, but I don't see where the conference at this point needs UCF. They just had their best season in history and couldn't sniff the playoffs. They need the conference a heck of a lot more than the Big12 needs them.

Adding UCF is comparable to adding TCU. Elevating a G5 school in an area ISU recruits which makes it that much harder to get kids from that region.
 
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y'all can continue to put UCF down, just like others put ISU down, but UCF is the 2nd largest university after Arizona, bigger than tOSU. UCF is a very high-quality academic school and an up and coming athletic school. I'd take UCF to the big 12 over dwindling schools like Cincinnati or Memphis any day. With that amount of alumni pumping out, the fan base will grow fast.

I'm actually not sure if you're being sarcastic or not. If not...

If UCF were to be able to run the table again and get into the FBS Playoffs, you might have a point. But the system is set up to prevent this, every year.

UCF could have 1 million new alumni a year. If they are all Gators, Seminoles, and Hurricanes, it doesn't mean **** for UCF. Those alumni don't show up at games for a 13-0 "National Championship" team. They don't watch the broadcasts at an alarming rate either.

Just like all of those Boise State fans that were around when they were the "BCS Buster". Boise State is really showing everyone now! :jimlad:
 

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How's that working for Rutgers? I get the point that people are making and frankly if forced to add members, there are worse options, but I don't see where the conference at this point needs UCF. They just had their best season in history and couldn't sniff the playoffs. They need the conference a heck of a lot more than the Big12 needs them.

Adding UCF is comparable to adding TCU. Elevating a G5 school in an area ISU recruits which makes it that much harder to get kids from that region.

Clarification, adding UCF now, would be comparable to adding TCU after their first MWC championship in 2005. Only in 2012, after TCU had proven to be a solid program, did the Big12 extend them the offer. And that was when the conference was in dire need of more members.

UCF is not a perennial power. They've had some good, and some great, seasons against a lower level of competition than the Big12.
 

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Clarification, adding UCF now, would be comparable to adding TCU after their first MWC championship in 2005. Only in 2012, after TCU had proven to be a solid program, did the Big12 extend them the offer. And that was when the conference was in dire need of more members.

UCF is not a perennial power. They've had some good, and some great, seasons against a lower level of competition than the Big12.

Well, TCU also had the convenient benefit of fantastic geographic proximity...

Part of me hopes Baylor Fs up again and we replace them with Houston. They have a higher ceiling, IMO.
 
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Well, TCU also had the convenient benefit of fantastic geographic proximity...

Part of me hopes Baylor Fs up again and we replace them with Houston. They have a higher ceiling, IMO.

Baylor has had murder, drugs, and rape swept under the rug by a complicit athletic department and the school's administration.

What could they possibly do to get them kicked out of the Big IIXII if they have not yet been booted?
 
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