But you're high on someone who's never done anything related to coaching or recruiting.
Tom Manning OC
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But you're high on someone who's never done anything related to coaching or recruiting.
And if it comes with their consistent success they have always had then it's a great idea. I like your optimism!
A lot of dumb in here - makes me wonder, are you Section-what-ever-the-****?
We can pump the brakes on this narrative because it's really not true. The best four players in the 15 class were better than anyone we have in the current class. I'm as optimistic as anyone about the current staff's recruiting but saying they have a bunch of guys coming in that are much better the our past couple classes isn't true at this point based on the data we have.
we competed this year with what we had. Upgrade that, and with the talent we have returning? I see upside.
Misremembering a little. LOTS of people were not thrilled with Mangina and there was ample evidence and analysis supporting their positions.
So we should just drop out of FBS and hope to win some FCS championships?
I have a feeling Campbell and his assistants will do the best freaking job they can do. That's all we can expect from them.
What else can we hope for? Throw 8 million a year at Nick Saban and hope he comes here? Nope. We get the best coaches we can who will recruit the best players they can and go to work.
Of course it matters who the assistant coaches are. To **** on them just because they came from Toledo is pessimistic at best, and stupid at worst.
Any other OC we could ahve brought in would either have been a lower level OC or someone from a staff who just got laid off. Campbell chose to go with an up and coming OL coach who we might have lost in a couple years if we didn't promote him.
The coaching staff knows a whole hell of a lot more about football than anyone on this message board. Give them the benefit of the doubt.
If they can't get it done, then we hire new coaches in a few years. That's how football works.
I am good with this hire. CMC has worked with Moore and he should know if his skill set will make a good OC. Sometimes it is more about the person than it is about the experience one has. CMC is a former OC, so if we go young with one of the coordinators it makes sense it is the OC. There are plenty of young OCs doing well in our league. I'm not sure I would want a wily old veteran as a OC. Been there and done that.
Id be very curious to see how he would do away from Alabama at this point. He's gotten pretty comfy up top.
Saw this coming when they didn't announce Mannings salary yesterday. Sturdy staying at QB coach makes sense with him having OC experience and history with current players. Coupled with the fact I've never heard anything bad said about Sturdy.
Exactly. So many people were dying for us to throw money at an "established" P5 coach to ensure success at ISU. It takes a different kind of coach to win here than it does at LSU or Alabama. I really like our young, hungry coaching staff. I think they will be able to sway some young players here that the previous staff could not.
This roster has been last place in the B12 for many, many years. Should CMC just bring in his average Toledo class we are already ahead of the game.
This is a young man's game. The prior staff fought to keep using leather helmets and probably had a Myspace page. CMC and his band might just relate so much better to today's athlete and today's athlete might just want to play for a coaching staff like he as assembled.
Good point. The top of last years class has been really good. I'm hoping, based on what we've seen so far, that this years class might have a little more depth and potential in the end. We'll see though. Hopefully they pull in some bigger recruits after the dead period as well.
This seemed like the obvious hire when Candle went back to Toledo. Manning has followed a path similar to Campbell, and Campbell's obviously passionate about what his offense should do and is comfortable with Manning. As some posted, the guy's considered a very good coach too.
To those who only see one side of risk... clearly there is risk in hiring a young guy like this. Step back a little and think through the risk in hiring an experienced guy, though. Unless you think some genius, experienced OC is walking in the door (cue, Herman/Mensa joke - he had his struggles at ISU as well), you don't think there's going to be risk with whomever we hire? E.g., Mangino didn't work out all that well and was acclaimed as a great get. Sturdy - seems like a good guy and had a little success at the end of the year, but does his resume shout "TOP OC"?!
If we can't put our faith in Campbell and his decisions, shouldn't have hired him.
To those who only see one side of risk... clearly there is risk in hiring a young guy like this. Step back a little and think through the risk in hiring an experienced guy, though. Unless you think some genius, experienced OC is walking in the door (cue, Herman/Mensa joke - he had his struggles at ISU as well), you don't think there's going to be risk with whomever we hire? E.g., Mangino didn't work out all that well and was acclaimed as a great get. Sturdy - seems like a good guy and had a little success at the end of the year, but does his resume shout "TOP OC"?!
If we can't put our faith in Campbell and his decisions, shouldn't have hired him.
