Maybe you’re right, it’s not like I’ve coached a team before. Just trying to connect the dots after several really close road losses.
TJ’s Weaknesses Exposed Tonight
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It’s funny that only two teams in the Big 12 have been competitive in every conference road. One is West Virginia with no road loss exceeding 7 points and the other is Iowa State with no road loss exceeding 5 points.
Lol at the TJ should start having to answer for this. Dude we fought back and had a chance to win. What is going to happen to you when we lose by 10+ on the road. It has happened to Texas, Kansas, Baylor, Kansas State and TCU.
Legend has it that one time near the end of a close game Larry E. drew up an elaborate play to win the game in a timeout. As the players left the huddle JT got the players together one more time and said “F**k that. Here is what we are going to do...”. Our resulting late game dunk secured the victory.
As Tamin grows in his role, we may learn the coaching only goes so far. At the end of the day the players still need to make a play to win a close game. Don’t forget the other team is also doing everything possible to keep it from happening. Our future is bright.
As Tamin grows in his role, we may learn the coaching only goes so far. At the end of the day the players still need to make a play to win a close game. Don’t forget the other team is also doing everything possible to keep it from happening. Our future is bright.
You mean like the Iowa and Missouri games? What's going to happen is I'll chalk it up to the other team being hot that night and move on.
That's not what I'm talking about here, I'm talking about the constant inability to close out a game we shoukd have won. This is 4 straight that we've lost and had numerous chances at the end. That's unprecedented.
Interesting logic there. The close wins are all luck and the close losses are cause we suck. We have been in every conference road game until the end and we've won 2 and lost 4. Go flip a coin 6 times and see how often you get one side twice and the other side 4 times. Spoiler, it will happen a lot. If ISU keeps in it until the end some of them will go there way and others won't.
I think that aspect of coaching is important, but it's pretty overrated. It's all a tradeoff. You can be a really set-heavy team, and chances are you are probably going to tend to better at running a set to get a shot at the end of clock situations. Not always, but that's going to be the case most of the time. Some coaches are pretty good at both letting their teams read and react with simpler offensive actions and also have some money plays they execute well when they need to. But I'd say those aren't super common.
ISU's offense is probably never going to go that direction. They are going to run some simple actions offensively, and try to be really good at reading and decision-making off of those. I think that is a better approach to offense. People ***** about AAU for a lot of reasons, but I do think this is a big reason Fr. are ready to play right away more often now. They tend to run a lot of simple actions and players get good at reading and reacting to how the defense plays them.
I kind of see it like any of the option stuff in football - read option, old-school speed option, RPO, etc. and throw in use of option routes in the passing game. You get elite at reading, decision-making, and executing, and it's pretty hard to stop even if you do everything right defensively.
Over the years I think the staff will accumulate some favorite sets for situations and get good at them. They'll get better. Hoiberg ran some good out of bounds stuff, but we also had some pretty terrible end of half/game possessions. Some worked out because guys like Naz, Monte, Kane and Georges had giant brass balls.
Missed grill layup
Jaren letting the rebound squirt out of his hands and go out of bounds
were 2 critical plays down the stretch that killed us
There was also another play a little earlier where WV missed a shot, Osun and Jaren both went for the rebound, and it rolled out of bounds and back to WV. It looked like Osun could have gotten it but he just stood there while Jaren tried to unsuccessfully chase it.
You can go to every one of those close losses and see plays where we ****** up.
TJ said on the postgame show with Walters and Heft "You have to be almost perfect to win on the road".
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Ok, well its great to know I'm wasting my time watching games that will all be decided by a coin flip at the end and has nothing to do with the two teams.
How in God's name did we blow last night? Lol
Umm, we have possession of the ball with 15 seconds left down 1 and we end up losing by 5? That's a choke job.
You are such a troll. Its not shocking that you are once again up to your antics after a tough road loss.
What would be unprecedented would be him not throwing a tantrum after a loss.
So its on the staff for missing a layup with 8 seconds to go....on a play that I feel like everyone universally agrees that Grill was tripped on. It's a choke job for not winning down 3 with 7 seconds to go. I mean come on man....you can't even believe half of the stuff that you are actually writing.
What?? Lol no. Choking is what happened in the TTU game. What you just described happens in probably every single close victory in basketball.
I didn't say a word until the Oklahoma State loss this year.
Grill and Holmes were clearly frustrated and throwing tantrums late in the game last night also but fans aren't allowed to?
Grill got fouled for sure but I could see why refs missed it with how clueless they were the rest of the game.
Touissant flopped but you could make the case for a charge. Holmes absolutely has to be smarter than that and not fall for his bs but he lured him into lowering his shoulder.
CycloneErik
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A tough road loss he hasn't even watched yet. Keep that in mind. He's complaining about a game he didn't even watch.
I watched it this morning. Worst game of basketball ive ever seen on both sides.
A player being frustrated in the moment and a fan acting petulant the next day are not the same thing.
