TJ’s Weaknesses Exposed Tonight

[Statefan10]

Okay, that’s one game. What about the others?

I don’t see why you guys take these things so personally. TJ is an excellent coach but he’s not perfect. I’m just trying to have a discussion here, and you respond like I insulted your mother.

I think overall, TJ has been just okay with final play sets but those are so hit or miss. At the end of the day, your guys have to make plays off of what you draw up. If anything, I wish we wouldn't run a set and just ran a ball screen to play off of, hopefully letting Lipsey go down hill.

I can't remember if it was the TTU or OSU game, but we were running an action for Grill to hit the game winning shot and Lipsey's defender over helped on the away double screen and Lipsey could've driven in for a semi-contested layup for the tie/win. He didn't and we got a bad look instead.

In last night's game we have no idea what the play was going to be because of the charge (flop) taken. It's easy to highlight the negatives but we've ran good actions in other close games (Texas & KSU) for instance towards the end of the game.

 

[madguy30]

Okay, that’s one game. What about the others?

I don’t see why you guys take these things so personally. TJ is an excellent coach but he’s not perfect. I’m just trying to have a discussion here, and you respond like I insulted your mother.

In the others ISU was also generally covered up.

You have to have the guy to go to that get the look or bucket or open things up and that's not ISU's make up right now. All the opponent has to do is pressure the perimeter and any plan is dissolved pretty quickly. It doesn't help that ISU trips over themselves in the moment and that's like coaching a kicker; only so much you can do.

It's not personal or insulting, it's just a little too similar to 'why doesn't ISU just run a WR screen like Oklahoma does!?' during football season.

 

[madguy30]

I think overall, TJ has been just okay with final play sets but those are so hit or miss. At the end of the day, your guys have to make plays off of what you draw up. If anything, I wish we wouldn't run a set and just ran a ball screen to play off of, hopefully letting Lipsey go down hill.

I can't remember if it was the TTU or OSU game, but we were running an action for Grill to hit the game winning shot and Lipsey's defender over helped on the away double screen and Lipsey could've driven in for a semi-contested layup for the tie/win. He didn't and we got a bad look instead.

In last night's game we have no idea what the play was going to be because of the charge (flop) taken. It's easy to highlight the negatives but we've ran good actions in other close games (Texas & KSU) for instance towards the end of the game.

Lipsey kind of putting his head down and looking to get to the bucket lately makes me wonder if he can emerge into the role.

 

[Statefan10]

Lipsey kind of putting his head down and looking to get to the bucket lately makes me wonder if he can emerge into the role.

It absolutely sucks that last night ended in a loss, but I think that was our best road game we've played so far. We also were forced to use a variety of lineups due to the circumstances and many different players made plays and stepped up when they needed to.

And to your point, Lipsey grew up a lot last night.

 

[blutarsky]

I think overall, TJ has been just okay with final play sets but those are so hit or miss. At the end of the day, your guys have to make plays off of what you draw up. If anything, I wish we wouldn't run a set and just ran a ball screen to play off of, hopefully letting Lipsey go down hill.

I can't remember if it was the TTU or OSU game, but we were running an action for Grill to hit the game winning shot and Lipsey's defender over helped on the away double screen and Lipsey could've driven in for a semi-contested layup for the tie/win. He didn't and we got a bad look instead.

In last night's game we have no idea what the play was going to be because of the charge (flop) taken. It's easy to highlight the negatives but we've ran good actions in other close games (Texas & KSU) for instance towards the end of the game.

End of game is tough. Especially in a above average defensive league. Teams are athletic enough to match up, switch all screens and spoil last second plays. It really exposes our inability to break down defenders 1v1 from multiple guard positions. Hell, GK's 3 to win earlier in the season was a tough, tough shot. Not really what you draw up, right?

 

[NorthCyd]

So, what are everyone’s thoughts on TJs late game management?

Seems to me most of our late game plays are turnovers or last-second garbage shots (which besides @TCU, have not gone in). I don’t remember the last game where he successfully drew up a play that achieved its goal.

If he would have told Grill to make the layup at the end it would have been ideal. Not sure what TJ was thinking there.

 

[madguy30]

It absolutely sucks that last night ended in a loss, but I think that was our best road game we've played so far. We also were forced to use a variety of lineups due to the circumstances and many different players made plays and stepped up when they needed to.

And to your point, Lipsey grew up a lot last night.

They were down 15 at one point in the first half and not letting it unravel was a big deal considering how things have gone previously.

Saturday they can't just assume they'll fix things like last week though. They'll need to play very well.

This next month might be really fun or somewhat gut wrenching from a fan's perspective. Probably somewhere in between like every week prior, haha.

 

[Statefan10]

They were down 15 at one point in the first half and not letting it unravel was a big deal considering how things have gone previously.

Saturday they can't just assume they'll fix things like last week though. They'll need to play very well.

This next month might be really fun or somewhat gut wrenching from a fan's perspective. Probably somewhere in between like every week prior, haha.

Yeah I don't think this team is one that's going to lose focus. We need to remember what happened at OSU. Them losing Avery Anderson is a huge loss for them and we need to take advantage of that.

 

[madguy30]

Yeah I don't think this team is one that's going to lose focus. We need to remember what happened at OSU. Them losing Avery Anderson is a huge loss for them and we need to take advantage of that.

Drink.

 

[CycloneJoe6]

Yeah I don't think this team is one that's going to lose focus. We need to remember what happened at OSU. Them losing Avery Anderson is a huge loss for them and we need to take advantage of that.

This and fingers crossed Miles is out for TCU next Wednesday

 

[madguy30]

This and fingers crossed Miles is out for TCU next Wednesday

Drink.

Has this ended well for ISU yet this year?

 

[isufbcurt]

Okay, that’s one game. What about the others?

I don’t see why you guys take these things so personally. TJ is an excellent coach but he’s not perfect. I’m just trying to have a discussion here, and you respond like I insulted your mother.

I don't think a coach drawing up a game winning play happens as much as you seem to think it does.

 

[NILversusCFL]

I don't mind when Jaz hacks a guy 20 feet from the bucket. It is the 30-80 foot range that the hacks bother me.

And Joe T , stop falling down to make it look like you were pushed. Flopper !!!!

 

[NickTheGreat]

Drink.

Has this ended well for ISU yet this year?

They'll have some bench guy go off for 5/6 from three. Same dude that's made three 3's all season!

 

[madguy30]

They'll have some bench guy go off for 5/6 from three. Same dude that's made three 3's all season!

Yep book it.

 

[werdnamanhill]

We foul too much

 

[Gunnerclone]

End of game is tough. Especially in a above average defensive league. Teams are athletic enough to match up, switch all screens and spoil last second plays. It really exposes our inability to break down defenders 1v1 from multiple guard positions. Hell, GK's 3 to win earlier in the season was a tough, tough shot. Not really what you draw up, right?

And it’s basically a free for all because the refs aren’t going to blow the same way they have the rest of the game.

 

[NoCreativity]

I'm all in on TJ but we do need to start asking some questions on why we are constantly on the wrong end of these one-posession road games.

We have 1 legitimate road win where I thought we controlled them the entire game. The TCU went exactly like the other 4 league losses only we got lucky and got bailed out by Gabe at the end.

So thats 5 out of 6 league road games where we essentially are blowing it at the end.

We have 3 more chances so we'll see if this trend continues.

 

[ChickenNuggetMan]

I don't think a coach drawing up a game winning play happens as much as you seem to think it does.

Maybe you’re right, it’s not like I’ve coached a team before. Just trying to connect the dots after several really close road losses.

 

[rochclone]

I'm all in on TJ but we do need to start asking some questions on why we are constantly on the wrong end of these one-posession road games.

We have 1 legitimate road win where I thought we controlled them the entire game. The TCU went exactly like the other 4 league losses only we got lucky and got bailed out by Gabe at the end.

So thats 5 out of 6 league road games where we essentially are blowing it at the end.

We have 3 more chances so we'll see if this trend continues.

It’s funny that only two teams in the Big 12 have been competitive in every conference road. One is West Virginia with no road loss exceeding 7 points and the other is Iowa State with no road loss exceeding 5 points.

Lol at the TJ should start having to answer for this. Dude we fought back and had a chance to win. What is going to happen to you when we lose by 10+ on the road. It has happened to Texas, Kansas, Baylor, Kansas State and TCU.