So Media Matters report was accurate, confirmed by Twitter themselves, but Twitter is suing them anyways because they refreshed and scrolled too much. That about cover the tl;dr?
Thoughts on social media sites? UPDATE: Apple, IBM, Disney, etc. stopped advertising on Twitter - Musk suing
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Jeez you are really upset about me posting a pretty good plan of eliminating 99% of the garbage on twitter that most people are upset about seeing. And which had 0 to do with what you bringing up. If you are upset about people wrongfully getting doxed you better start going after every single other social platform along with a boat load of news organizations because it happens everywhere.
Doxing someone who wasn't involved is terrible. No one is arguing that.
It is confusing though because from the article it sounded like two separate nazi groups clashed and masks were pulled off. The internet was doing what the internet does and was trying to identify...who the nazis were. Personally, I think every single one of of them should be identified. You keep saying nazis wanted to dox someone..well wouldn't they be doxing someone who they thought was a nazi? So were nazis outing other nazis?
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...but what they did wasn't illegal, nor falsified. Damages don't matter when the event is true.
And he is going after Musk
"Twitter / X doesn't claim that the screenshots in Media Matters' recent report were fake or created via image editing software. In fact, it validates them as real, confirming that Media Matters did indeed see Apple, Bravo, Oracle, Xfinity, and IBM advertisements next to posts celebrating Nazism on Twitter / X. "
Twitter/X confirms Nazi content was shown alongside Apple ads. So why is it suing?
The social media platform is accusing Media Matters of trying to drive away its advertisers.
From my understanding, twitter (Elon) is suing because they stand to lose tons of money because this media matters company specifically curated their feed to create those ad placements so that they could show other companies their advertisements were next to hate comments. If it actually happened that way and wasn’t just random it is insane.
Twitter's own behavior caused those damages. MM just exposed that behavior.
A carefully and purposefully curated event
I mean, it doesn't matter if it was random though.
If you're setting up an experiment to see if advertiser's ads will end up near hateful garbage, you have to set certain conditions to be true, namely that you'll see the hateful content in the first place to see the ad placement.
Advertisers don't want their brand next to that content, even if the viewer is predisposed to that content.
Following racists and scrolling a lot is a pretty typical twitter use case.
And is that illegal? MM appears to have created a repeatable scenario which could happen organically.
I don't see the grounds with which Musk can sue here. On top of it being a clear attack on speech (against his platform), assuming that MM's methodology is accurate. They didn't alter the ads, nor the platform algorithm, in any way. They gave it a set of inputs and that's what it provided back as output.
Yes, exactly. And lead Nazi Elon helped them target someone that had absolutely nothing to do with any of it. The guy they targeted had the same amount of connection as you and your perfect X feed, nothing.
They set out to achieve a goal (scare advertisers away from the platform), and used a very unusual and specific setup to do it.
According to Twitter they created a new account, followed some white supremacist accounts and then used twitter. What a "specific" circumstance.
This appears to be the original story (correct me if I am wrong). Here is how it was presented:
"We recently found ads for Apple, Bravo, Oracle, Xfinity, and IBM next to posts that tout Hitler and his Nazi Party on X."
"Found". That's an interesting way of saying we created an extremely specific scenario to bring about that result.
"We recently found ads for Apple, Bravo, Oracle, Xfinity, and IBM next to posts that tout Hitler and his Nazi Party on X."
"Found". That's an interesting way of saying we created an extremely specific scenario to bring about that result.
How many people do you suppose only follow inflammatory accounts and a specific set of big advertisers?
White supremacist accounts AND the accounts of some of the biggest advertisers on Twitter.
If you only follow a few accounts, and that's your mix, I suppose it's pretty easy to see those things together.
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