This is all just pageantry. They can pretend like they're going to save this conference but they're high. This ship is sinking fast.
The Big 12 AD meeting Thursday night
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I don't think it's a coincidence that Nick Saban was flaunting his million dollar quarterback right before this all hit the fan. OU, Texas, Big ten teams are all going to want a piece of that ridiculous booster situation in the SEC.
You don't think if they were going to be able to make more money they wouldn't have already done this? They could go to Wintersteen/Pollard ANY time and say, "we think you'd be a great fit and we'd be able to mutually benefit from a partnership...would you entertain joining us?"
If Iowa State or any other "leftover" institution in the Big 12 was beneficial to the Big 10 the Big 12 wouldn't exist today.
It's purely logical. People want to act like so much has changed since the last time this happened and on paper things have. The things that matter however....they haven't. BTN already is on the cable package in Iowa. The Big 10 already has the school with the stronger following in Iowa.
Does Iowa State certainly do a better job showing sports are important and we are willing to step up our game? Most certainly! Does that cover up the fact that the football program is appearing to be an aberration right now? No. Does it cover up the fact that our athletic budget is still towards the bottom of the existing Power 5? No. Would Iowa State have supported adding two lesser schools 10 years ago? No, because it would've taken money out of their pockets.
If "inventory" was the name of the game they could just invite any school to join them and voila...inventory! That's not how it works.
Won’t add schools because it would take away revenue from existing schools, but also will pay 100’s of millions to get schools out of contracts. Makes sense to me!
I don't think he's really had a ton of good options but he surely has been a giant milk toast sandwich.
https://cyclonefanatic.com/forum/th...te-if-the-big-12-implodes.264328/post-7817428
You need a time machine because you are stuck in 2010 where big markets mattered. Viewership is what matters today, not TV markets. And attendance is a proxy for viewership. ISU has shown they have fans who will watch. ISU is an up and coming program that gets viewers. If you listen to people outside of Iowa you would understand this. But Iowa fans think that ISU is worthless and ISU fans have too many memories of getting kicked in the nuts.
There is nothing stopping other schools/players from that now, no matter where they are located. Texas boosters have the money if they wanted to do the same thing to their new quarterback.
I wonder how much timing is a factor here. Obviously the B1G is the best landing spot for most of us leftovers. From the B1G's perspective I think they have to expand at some point, but they can't poach ND or the ACC for another decade. Missouri+KU would possibly be better than KU+ISU, and if Missouri is interested the SEC would take OkState and probably be happy, it would smooth a lot of this process. If the B1G decides to wait for those, the PAC could look at the B12 and decide Kansas, ISU, and OSU are the biggest names and say "We'll take you +1, but you need to sign a GOR that says you can't leave for a while". What do we do? What do the other P5 conferences do?
They aren't going to have that many options if the SEC is poaching Blue bloods. Why does Ohio State and Michigan stick around when they can make more money in a league full of kings? This is much bigger than just OU and UT and the NIL. All teams in all conferences should be fear for their situation and leverage because everyone is going to be talking in back rooms about leaving for better pasture.
Sure you can say that but do they have a million dollar quarterback like Alabama already? It's the notoriety that they're after.
First it is about double what you listed...BIG will pay out this coming season around $55Mil per team. So more like $770 MIL.
Second, any new team that joins the BIG outside of say USC or Oregon will join and not get a Full Share of revenue first 5 years or so...Like Nebraska. So ISU will make maybe $30 Mil a year first 5 years in BIG. Let's assume also that ISU generates ZERO revenue for the BIG which is utterly ridiculous btw...but let's assume this...
This is only $2mil less per existing 14 BIG teams per year to add ISU. ISU can also provide the BIG with the $$ they will make off Tx and OU exit fees etc... Which won't be small btw..
Another thing going in ISU favor is ISU is the 2nd biggest TV draw for basketball in the BIg 12 outside of KU...
Lastly, the trend in college sports believe it or not is both fball and bball are losing viewership. Last year was just brutal for both sports in COVID year which i really dont get as people were more at home etc.. but maybe alot more people stopped paying for tv$$ bc lost jobs etc.. idk.
ISU has a rabid, loyal, fan and alumni following. Like other's have said the future isn't so much about Tv markets but rather viewership, subscriptions etc... and ISU can more than hold their own in both sports.
I know this is all about football mostly but ISU is positioned well to make the argument that they have a good fan following in both sports helping to generate more revenue in Men's bball.
The big ten isn’t thinking about what’s best for the next 10 years. They are thinking about what’s best for the next 50.
And they aren’t adding a school that doesn’t expand their TV market. Big Ten currently reaches from Midwest to east coast. Lots of schools fit that “geographic footprint”.
ISU is not going to the Big Ten. And why would they want to?
And they aren’t adding a school that doesn’t expand their TV market. Big Ten currently reaches from Midwest to east coast. Lots of schools fit that “geographic footprint”.
ISU is not going to the Big Ten. And why would they want to?
You honestly think 'TV markets' will matter in 50 years? Are you stuck in 1960?
You can replace TV with “viewership”. Streaming and the like.
Im sorry I hurt your feelings by being realistic.
TV markets don't mean **** anymore. What matters is actual fanbases and how many viewers you are going to bring. Just because Rutgers is in the New York City market doesn’t mean they bring those dollars anymore. Nobody there cares about them and therefore all those people won’t turn into subscriptions.
I’m anti streaming but that doesn’t mean that isn’t what future media deals will be built off of.
The big ten is thinking 50 years in the future using methods from 50 years in the past. Makes perfect sense.
You should just stop posting if you don't understand why ISU would want to be in the Big 10.
God forbid that happens from an ISU standpoint; for everyone else mentioned it's ideal. Better fit for Mizzou, and I'd be happy for Okie St. But that's a nightmare scenario for ISU.
Secondly, if the Pac offered anything after the above happened, you sign it before the paper hits the table. That's oxygen when you are 200 feet underwater.
