TCU Basketball
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Basketball is different from football in that just a couple of players can make a huge difference. Their recruiting profile in hoops just went way up by joining the B12; and there is a lot of BB talent in Texas. Not saying they are going to compete right away but a few years down the road ... who knows.
Why? They were 10-6 prior to conference play last year, beating two BCS schools (USC and Texas Tech).
10-6 is a horrible record coming into conference play. I expect ISU to be undefeated or at 1 loss going into conference play this upcoming year.
Agree completely. Just look at what Baylor has done since joining the Big 12. They went from a team with horrible attendance (less than 4,000 per game) and horrible history to moderate attendance (still among the lowest in the Big 12) and a good basketball program. We just helped TCU tremendously. Now they get to bring in Kansas, Missouri (maybe), Texas, OU, Okla. State, etc. every year.
As a basketball fan, I must say I am quite disappointed in TCU joining the conference. I've been to their arena and it has a worse atmosphere than any team in the Big 12 - BY FAR! It's just sad. This is a mid-major type program folks.
I pray we can add Louisville, BYU and either WVU or Cincy to make up for the bad, BAD basketball at TCU.
Their non-conference sos was actually better than ours last year. Besides, you said they needed to schedule those teams to win a game. Clearly they don't. They can win a number of games by scheduling legitimate teams. How quickly people forget where we were a few years ago. 2008 we were 10-6 in non-conference play.
When you compare ISU and TCU. ISU has LOTS of room to talk trash. They were the worst team in the MWC... That is bad.
These pictures will give you an idea of the ****** crowds at TCU games. Keep in mind, this is against the #6 ranked San Diego State team of last year.
Deuce High: Arena Adventures: Daniel-Meyer Coliseum
Mimics my experience in Daniel-Meyer Coliseum. There were honest-to-God about 1000 people at the game I attended. And they played SMU from just across the Metroplex.
All I'm saying is that as a basketball fan, I hate bringing these programs into such a strong basketball conference. The benefits run one direction, to TCU. TCU brings nothing to the table for bball.
Deuce High: Arena Adventures: Daniel-Meyer Coliseum
Mimics my experience in Daniel-Meyer Coliseum. There were honest-to-God about 1000 people at the game I attended. And they played SMU from just across the Metroplex.
All I'm saying is that as a basketball fan, I hate bringing these programs into such a strong basketball conference. The benefits run one direction, to TCU. TCU brings nothing to the table for bball.
smile:TCU has a lot going for them with good academics, great football, great baseball, and being located in the DFW metro but hoops is definitely a weak spot for them.
- They play in an unimpressive and old 7,166 seat arena
- They have only made the NCAA tournament 7 times with their last trip being in 1998 and their last tournament win in 1987.
- Last year they averaged 4,285 fans per game.
- Their current coach is Jim Christian and after going 138-58 with 2 NCAA appearnces at Kent State he has struggled at TCU with a reccord of 38-58.
Hopefully with a move to the Big 12 they invest more into their hoops program. I hope they build a new 9 or 10 thousand seat arena with top of the line facilities. That plus their location and the teams they are going to be playing should help them bring in better talent.
Here are two examples of the kind of arena I think they should build.
Auburn Arena opened in 2010 with a capacity of 9,121 and was built for 92.5 million
Or
Chaifetz Arena opened in 2008 with a capacity of 10,600 and was built for 80.5 million.
If SLU can build an arena like that in the A10 then I'm sure TCU could in the Big 12. An arena like one of the above plus games against Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Texas, Baylor, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, and Mizzou (if we stay) should really be able to help elevate their program. There is plenty of hoops talent for them to recruit in Texas.
- They play in an unimpressive and old 7,166 seat arena
- They have only made the NCAA tournament 7 times with their last trip being in 1998 and their last tournament win in 1987.
- Last year they averaged 4,285 fans per game.
- Their current coach is Jim Christian and after going 138-58 with 2 NCAA appearnces at Kent State he has struggled at TCU with a reccord of 38-58.
Hopefully with a move to the Big 12 they invest more into their hoops program. I hope they build a new 9 or 10 thousand seat arena with top of the line facilities. That plus their location and the teams they are going to be playing should help them bring in better talent.
Here are two examples of the kind of arena I think they should build.
Auburn Arena opened in 2010 with a capacity of 9,121 and was built for 92.5 million
Or
Chaifetz Arena opened in 2008 with a capacity of 10,600 and was built for 80.5 million.
If SLU can build an arena like that in the A10 then I'm sure TCU could in the Big 12. An arena like one of the above plus games against Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Texas, Baylor, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, and Mizzou (if we stay) should really be able to help elevate their program. There is plenty of hoops talent for them to recruit in Texas.
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We finished with the best record for the worst team in a BCS conference. Their record just sucked in a non-BCS conference. Teams can have a bad game (TT or USC) and lose, basketball is a crazy game.
Billy had Daniel Meyer filled up for many games when he was there with Nailon. Their last two hires have not worked out at all. If Christian does not significantly improve the record this season, he will be fired and they will bring in a new guy with the their new TV money from FB. With the nearby DFW recruiting base, there is no excuse for them being that bad for so long and I would expect them to become very competitive with the right coach (just like they have in FB and their other sports).
Best post in the thread.
I looked back at ISU's wins over Nebraska in the past 15 years a while back and the wins accumulated against that pathetic program are staggering.
No team is even CLOSE to providing ISU with as many wins. Even a lot of ISU's worst teams got two wins against Nebraska. We've been pretty horrible the past 4 seasons, and still managed to go 5-3 against Nebraska in that time frame, that's how bad they are.
Overall it's like an average of 1.8 wins a year we lost off our schedule with the Huskers leaving. They're 0 for all time in the NCAA tournament.
All 10 current Big 12 teams have sweet 16 runs or better in the past 15 years. We need a team like TCU basketball in this league. ESPECIALLY when the other expansion candidates consist of powerhouses like Louisville, Cincy, WVU and BYU.
GREAT basketball move for ISU and the Big 12.
MissouriFan, not trying to flame you, just want an honest opinion?
What are your feelings about joining a conference where only the fans of Kentucky and Vanderbilt know the sport of basketball exists?
You're going from playing against packed large stadiums to playing games nobody cares about in states like Mississippi, Alabama and Georgia.
The Big 12 Texas teams atmosphere aren't as intense from a fan perspective as the Big 8/Big 12 North/OU/OSU. But when a massive athletic program like Auburn builds a brand new arena that is just over HALF the size of Iowa State's, you know that's a total crap basketball conference with fans that don't like basketball.
Mizzou belongs in the Big 12 or Big Ten. Basketball and wrestling put it in focus even more than football does.
What are your feelings about joining a conference where only the fans of Kentucky and Vanderbilt know the sport of basketball exists?
You're going from playing against packed large stadiums to playing games nobody cares about in states like Mississippi, Alabama and Georgia.
The Big 12 Texas teams atmosphere aren't as intense from a fan perspective as the Big 8/Big 12 North/OU/OSU. But when a massive athletic program like Auburn builds a brand new arena that is just over HALF the size of Iowa State's, you know that's a total crap basketball conference with fans that don't like basketball.
Mizzou belongs in the Big 12 or Big Ten. Basketball and wrestling put it in focus even more than football does.
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