NFL: ***Super Bowl LIII Thread***

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Brady and Bellicheat are the best serial cheaters ever. Cheaters who break the rules are not worthy of respect. They lack morals and sportsmanship. Truly great athletes and coaches do not cheat to win. Brady and Bellicheat not worthy of respect. No such thing as Honor Before Victory. Culture of Cheating is rampant in the Patriots organization.

Lemme guess: you believe Deflagate was real.
 
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Let me guess. You think Spygate was not. 2002 till 2007 spent illegally filming other teams. The list is long. They are cheaters.

Patriots $250k fine. Bellicheat $500k fine. Loss of first round pick.

https://www.newsday.com/sports/foot...patriots-alleged-cheating-scandals-1.10397459

Julian Edelman suspended 4 games for PED’s this year. Culture of Cheating.

Nah, they were video taping in the “wrong” places. That was illegal. It wasn’t illegal to video tape in and of itself. Sure, punish them. It wasn’t that big of deal.

Deflategate was debunked and is utterly ridiculous.

 

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Nah, they were video taping in the “wrong” places. That was illegal. It wasn’t illegal to video tape in and of itself. Sure, punish them. It wasn’t that big of deal.

Deflategate was debunked and is utterly ridiculous.



WHY did the Patriots employee take the footballs into the bathroom?
 

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WHY did the Patriots employee take the footballs into the bathroom?

Cuz he was going to the bathroom?

He was in there for 90 seconds. You think he deflated 12 footballs in 90 seconds when they were tested and found to be nearly exactly was that physics professor said they should be after the first half?
 

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Cuz he was going to the bathroom?

He was in there for 90 seconds. You think he deflated 12 footballs in 90 seconds when they were tested and found to be nearly exactly was that physics professor said they should be after the first half?

Why did he Lie and say he took the footballs straight to the Field? No reason to Lie if you have done nothing wrong.

It was 1 minute 40 minutes. And yes, it is physically possible. Especially if you are experienced at it.

And he said he used the urinal in the bathroom. There is no urinal in that bathroom.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sb...investigation-afc-championship-game-tom-brady
 
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Lemme guess: you believe Deflagate was real.

I think the competitive advantage was imaginary and I think they did it all the same. That's what makes the whole spectacle so stupid. They didn't have to, it provided no competitive advantage, and they did it anyway because that's what they do. They push the envelope, exploit loopholes and ambiguities in the rules, and and if they get caught they just find another way to try and gain an advantage. If you're a Pats fan Belichick is the smartest coach of all time. If you're not a Pats fan he's a goddamned cheater.
 

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Why did he Lie and say he took the footballs straight to the Field? No reason to Lie if you have done nothing wrong.

It was 1 minute 40 minutes. And yes, it is physically possible. Especially if you are experienced at it.

And he said he used the urinal in the bathroom. There is no urinal in that bathroom.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sb...investigation-afc-championship-game-tom-brady

So you think he did all of that 100 seconds (not 90 sorry) but deny any of the physics involved? Gotcha.
 

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I think the competitive advantage was imaginary and I think they did it all the same. That's what makes the whole spectacle so stupid. They didn't have to, it provided no competitive advantage, and they did it anyway because that's what they do. They push the envelope, exploit loopholes and ambiguities in the rules, and and if they get caught they just find another way to try and gain an advantage. If you're a Pats fan Belichick is the smartest coach of all time. If you're not a Pats fan he's a goddamned cheater.
He's probably both.
 
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I think the competitive advantage was imaginary and I think they did it all the same. That's what makes the whole spectacle so stupid. They didn't have to, it provided no competitive advantage, and they did it anyway because that's what they do. They push the envelope, exploit loopholes and ambiguities in the rules, and and if they get caught they just find another way to try and gain an advantage. If you're a Pats fan Belichick is the smartest coach of all time. If you're not a Pats fan he's a goddamned cheater.

I’m no Pats fan and actively want them to lose, but they aren’t winning because they cheat.
 

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So you think he did all of that 100 seconds (not 90 sorry) but deny any of the physics involved? Gotcha.

Colts footballs did not deflate like that. How do you explain that?

They are very good. But still cheat. Culture of cheating even though they do not need to. Nixon didn’t need to break into Watergate to win the 1972 Election. But he did.
 

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I’m no Pats fan and actively want them to lose, but they aren’t winning because they cheat.

Even if that's true it doesn't mean they aren't cheaters. There's a long enough history of them bending the rules that they don't really deserve the benefit of the doubt.
 

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Colts footballs did not deflate like that. How do you explain that?

They are very good. But still cheat. Culture of cheating even though they do not need to. Nixon didn’t need to break into Watergate to win the 1972 Election. But he did.

Watch the video.
 

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Even if that's true it doesn't mean they aren't cheaters. There's a long enough history of them bending the rules that they don't really deserve the benefit of the doubt.

They absolutely bend the rules but I don’t think any of it contributes to them winning 6 Super Bowls in 17 years. They outcoach and outplay people in the playoffs nearly every year.
 

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Explain why the Colts footballs were not affected. Plus the Officials are to take the footballs to the field.

The video explains it much better than I could writing it. I’m giving you the facts, if you aren’t willing to look at it that’s on you.
 

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They absolutely bend the rules but I don’t think any of it contributes to them winning 6 Super Bowls in 17 years. They outcoach and outplay people in the playoffs nearly every year.

So we can agree that they're cheaters? That's what I was talking about. Whether or not whatever they've done actually is a competitive advantage is irrelevant. The point is that they did it.

Did spying on opponent practices help them win? Don't know, but I do know it was against the rules.

Did deflating footballs help them win? Don't know, but the evidence suggests they did it and it was against the rules.
 
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