STEVE DEACE: The future of college football

[cyclones500]

This was one of the most creative suggestions in his list for the amateur/paid aspect, at least as a starting point.

• Players are allowed to lawfully market their own likeness and brand without risking their eligibility and/or amateur status. Players may even form a professional association to corporately manage the marketing of their individual likenesses/branding for merchandising such as video games, memorabilia, etc. should a specific vendor wish to use their specific identity above and beyond the individual school’s/NCAA’s licensing. This non-profit association would then disseminate those payments equitably among its members, as well as manage post-eligibility funds for injuries, healthcare, post-graduate skill/job training, etc.

 

[ChrisMWilliams]

K St. and Texas Tech are the newest and proudest members of the American if that went down, yes.

64 - 14 (B1G) - 14 (SEC) - 14 (ACC) - 12 (Pac-16) leaves 10 slots remaining

Those ten slots don't all go to the Big 12... Two go to Notre Dame and BYU, leaving two out of the game of musical chairs.

He throws Iowa State a bone as a good geographical an academic fit with the Big Ten. That is nice. I could just as easily see them going for Kansas, though, given their academics and basketball program. They're not that much worse of geographic fit, either, for that matter.

TTU could be a package deal with UT.

I could easily see Kansas State and Iowa State being the two left out in the cold. Each are midwestern agricultural schools with small but dedicated fan bases but nothing to offer in terms of television or much of a tradition. They both have fell universities in the state that might not help them very much, either.

ISU has AAU status though, which I think will ultimately keep us safe.

 

[HFCS]

Texas Tech stole Deace's lunch money as a child.

 

[HoopsTournament]

This was one of the most creative suggestions in his list for the amateur/paid aspect, at least as a starting point.

• Players are allowed to lawfully market their own likeness and brand without risking their eligibility and/or amateur status. Players may even form a professional association to corporately manage the marketing of their individual likenesses/branding for merchandising such as video games, memorabilia, etc. should a specific vendor wish to use their specific identity above and beyond the individual school’s/NCAA’s licensing. This non-profit association would then disseminate those payments equitably among its members, as well as manage post-eligibility funds for injuries, healthcare, post-graduate skill/job training, etc.

It was the only part that I said I really liked.

 

[weR138]

Deace jumped the shark in 2010. Well, he would have. If he could jump.

 

[Clonehomer]

This was one of the most creative suggestions in his list for the amateur/paid aspect, at least as a starting point.

• Players are allowed to lawfully market their own likeness and brand without risking their eligibility and/or amateur status. Players may even form a professional association to corporately manage the marketing of their individual likenesses/branding for merchandising such as video games, memorabilia, etc. should a specific vendor wish to use their specific identity above and beyond the individual school’s/NCAA’s licensing. This non-profit association would then disseminate those payments equitably among its members, as well as manage post-eligibility funds for injuries, healthcare, post-graduate skill/job training, etc.

I like the idea as long as it is done as a collective, whether that is sport by sport or all D1 athletes. Otherwise, you're going to see schools using this as a recruiting tool. Oregon would have Nike contracts come along with their scholarship offers. Alabama would sell player jersies at $5,000 a piece.

 

[Sigmapolis]

ISU has AAU status though, which I think will ultimately keep us safe.

The collective media "Royal We" has conditioned us forever that all that matters is football tradition/eyeballs and the potential television base.

And now CW is arguing our AAU status is going to "keep us safe?"

Not saying your wrong, but that's far different than everything I've heard for years. All I've heard is that football comes first and they'll make the academics work out.

 

[HoopsTournament]

The collective media "Royal We" has conditioned us forever that all that matters is football tradition/eyeballs and the potential television base.

And now CW is arguing our AAU status is going to "keep us safe?"

Not saying your wrong, but that's far different than everything I've heard for years. All I've heard is that football comes first and they'll make the academics work out.

Because Big 10 and Pac 12 are big on academics. They have been high criteria in their selection process.

 

[isufbcurt]

For some reason people continue to listen to him and print his crap. I was hoping CF was above him by now. Ugh

 

[Cyched]

For some reason people continue to listen to him and print his crap. I was hoping CF was above him by now. Ugh

Eh, it's not like CF is promoting his political rants. I still appreciate his football insights

 

[Cyclonepride]

Deace submitted this to me on Friday night. It's interesting. What would college football look like if he was in charge?

http://cyclonefanatic.com/2016/08/deace-the-future-of-college-football/

• Ditch the 12th game (8 conference, 3 non-conference)
• Ditch the conference championship game (if necessary)
• 16 team playoff
• 16 team invitation tournament (NIT-type)

That's my solution.

 

[erikbj]

I have always like the idea of 4 conferences - then the conference championship games are played in early December and the winners go to the final four on Jan 1.

That basically gets you to a 8 team playoff and you can still keep all the bowl games in place. Plus they should ban playing any non-P4 conference teams in the non-conference Ever week of college football would be exciting. No more Bama playing WKU in November. Also no more ISU playing UNI or San Jose St's of the world.

 

[isufbcurt]

Eh, it's not like CF is promoting his political rants. I still appreciate his football insights

He lost ALL credibility with me along time ago when he spouted of crap that was 100% untrue about 2 of my teammates like it was fact.

 

[Cyched]

He lost ALL credibility with me along time ago when he spouted of crap that was 100% untrue about 2 of my teammates like it was fact.

What did he say? Genuinely curious

 

[jbindm]

No early signing period for recruits? And I'd rather see the playoff field expand to eight teams instead of dicking around with "four conference champs unless/until the SEC starts whining" nonsense.

 

[JP4CY]

OU and TX not in the same conference?

 

[HFCS]

Ship has sailed on 4x16 even if we end up with 4 conferences it will be bigger to avoid the most obvious legal damages claims.

Mostly 4x16 was the Pac 10/12 commissioner coming out and saying that was his goal. I'm not sure the Big Ten or SEC's goal has ever been to have 3 other conferences viewed as their peer.

 

[brett108]

Like others have said..no way PAC takes BYU, Baylor or TCU...lol..So you can start over and take that into account...PAC presidents worry more than the BIG presidents about academics..Don't think for one second that half of these Presidents really care about Athletics cause they don't. Athletics to them is a drop in the bucket compared to the billions research brings in...drop in the bucket.

Just because those are TExas schools doesn't mean they will get into this situation at all. Accept BYU that is.

If this were the case they never would have sniffed at OU and OSU, two of the worst academic universities in the Big 12, with low endowments to boot. But they were, so this academics first thing just isn't realistic.

 

[brett108]

OU and TX not in the same conference?

Not having UT and AM in the same conference was deemed unthinkable a few years ago as well. But here we are...

 

[Havs]

Ultimately we will wind up with four super-conferences. If the Big 12 blows up in 2024 (or something else does) there will be ten slots if all conferences are only 16 members. Right now there are ten Big 12 Members, then Notre Dame (lock), and potentially UConn and BYU vying for slots. It'll come down to a bidding war of the following schools for those last 10 slots to reach 64:

Slots 1-7 (Locks)

1. Texas (lock)
2. Oklahoma (lock)
3. Notre Dame (lock)
4. Texas Tech (lock)
5. Oklahoma State (lock - probably)
6. Kansas (lock)
7. West Virginia (lock - probably)

Contenders for Last Three Slots (Slots 8-10)

• UConn
• Iowa State
• Kansas State
• TCU
• Baylor
• BYU

Ultimately we have to hope Baylor falls and TCU doesn't gain too much more traction in college football, and we will probably be fine. Keep an eye on UConn football too; their coach has also been recruiting well, and I bet they wind up in the big picture too.

If four 16-team super-conferences wind up, we will be sweating this process out, but will probably find a home given AAU status and alumni base size compared to others.

If the four leagues have any more than 16 (18-20) we are beyond safe.