Stephon Brown Commits

[temperflare]

Can you list the teams we've played so far that stink at stopping the run?

I'll play your game: when was the last time an Iowa State RB broke 1000 yds on the season?

The answer is 2009. And in 2010 ARob was close. Since then, the most yds gained by a single RB in a season is 700 by James White in 2012 and it's been down hill since.

Right now, we have two guys with 119 yds each on the season. For perspective, each Big12 team except WV (and he has almost 300 yds) has at least two RBs with more yards on the season and about half have at least 3. KU has three and one of them is a WR.

Let's not be incredibly foolish and try to sugarcoat our inability to run the ball. I am encouraged by our most recent RB commit as an effort by our coaches to get a running game going.

 

[Frak]

I've mentioned this combo more than a few times to my fellow cyclone fans at work. WTF can't we get two guys on the left side (or right) like those two who can clear a path? Blows my mind that we can't get any semblance of a running game in a pass-orientated conference. We can't even muster a single 100 yd rusher (RB) against teams that stink at stopping the run.

Yeah and don't forget about Hayworth hicks.

 

[bigdaddykane]

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1844471/stephon-brown

http://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=5330697

how does he run a 4.38 40 but a 11.37 100 meter?
(my 2000th post)

 

[iahawkhunter]

how does he run a 4.38 40 but a 11.37 100 meter?

Those last 63 yards are a *****.

 

[CTTB78]

Lot of great offers!...

I would agree with the a lot part.........

 

[The_Architect]

Lorenzo White.

Big Sexy!

 

[temperflare]

Big Sexy!

I remember in 2000 watching our DB's walk down the ramp for warm ups and thinking to myself, "Self, I'm taller than these guys, probably about as quick/fast, and I bet I can play. After all, I do have eligibility". Then came the OLine. Both Marcell Howard and Lorenzo White had arms bigger than my legs and one of them had a horseshoe branded, not tattooed, BRANDED on his arm. Needless to say, I had another discussion with myself about needing to live to see my kids have kids of ther own.

 

[VeloClone]

Big Sexy!

Lorenzo had season tickets next to me for a season. He was one of the largest, nicest guys I have ever met.

 

[The_Architect]

Lorenzo had season tickets next to me for a season. He was one of the largest, nicest guys I have ever met.

Yep, he's a great guy. Saw him on Saturday out in G7.

 

[Tre4ISU]

I'll play your game: when was the last time an Iowa State RB broke 1000 yds on the season?

The answer is 2009. And in 2010 ARob was close. Since then, the most yds gained by a single RB in a season is 700 by James White in 2012 and it's been down hill since.

Right now, we have two guys with 119 yds each on the season. For perspective, each Big12 team except WV (and he has almost 300 yds) has at least two RBs with more yards on the season and about half have at least 3. KU has three and one of them is a WR.

Let's not be incredibly foolish and try to sugarcoat our inability to run the ball. I am encouraged by our most recent RB commit as an effort by our coaches to get a running game going.

He was strictly talking this year. We probably played 4 pretty good defenses as far as stopping the run goes. I'm not saying we don't suck at running the ball, I'm just saying it could improve naturally just because of the teams we will play.

 

[Stormin]

I'll play your game: when was the last time an Iowa State RB broke 1000 yds on the season?

The answer is 2009. And in 2010 ARob was close. Since then, the most yds gained by a single RB in a season is 700 by James White in 2012 and it's been down hill since.

Right now, we have two guys with 119 yds each on the season. For perspective, each Big12 team except WV (and he has almost 300 yds) has at least two RBs with more yards on the season and about half have at least 3. KU has three and one of them is a WR.

Let's not be incredibly foolish and try to sugarcoat our inability to run the ball. I am encouraged by our most recent RB commit as an effort by our coaches to get a running game going.

Here is the list of teams we have played that stink at stopping the run.

The Answer is NONE of the teams we have played Stink at Stopping the Run.

IOWA is the Worst. #16 Rushing Defense. K-State is #13. Baylor is #6.

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/24

And North Dakota State is #3 in FCS Rushing Defense.

 

[temperflare]

He was strictly talking this year. We probably played 4 pretty good defenses as far as stopping the run goes. I'm not saying we don't suck at running the ball, I'm just saying it could improve naturally just because of the teams we will play.

I know he was talking this year. His response was to my comment referencing two linemen who played 14 years ago which clearly indicates that my beef with our lack of an effective running game goes well beyond this season. That should have been somewhat obvious in the context of my comment.

And a P5 team (yes, that's us) should be able to establish a run game against ANY FCS team.

 

[temperflare]

Here is the list of teams we have played that stink at stopping the run.

The Answer is NONE of the teams we have played Stink at Stopping the Run.

IOWA is the Worst. #16 Rushing Defense. K-State is #13. Baylor is #6.

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/24

And North Dakota State is #3 in FCS Rushing Defense.

Are they where they are at defensively because they are that good, or did the quality of opponents have a large impact on those results? And, are we one of those lesser quality teams in terms of our inability to establish an effective run game? The answer is quality of opponents plays a huge role and yes, we are one of those lesser teams in terms of run game.

 

[Stormin]

I know he was talking this year. His response was to my comment referencing two linemen who played 14 years ago which clearly indicates that my beef with our lack of an effective running game goes well beyond this season. That should have been somewhat obvious in the context of my comment.

And a P5 team (yes, that's us) should be able to establish a run game against ANY FCS team.

We rushed poorly against NDSU. Iowa did not do so well against UNI either.

We have rushed poorly in our first 4 games. As I pointed out, these Defenses ranked #6, and #13, and #16 in Rush Defense standings. While FCS #1 team NDSU ranks #3 in FCS standings.

We have faced some very tough run defenses so far.........and our rushing game has not met the challenge against those tough defenses.

 

[rich4cy]

how does he run a 4.38 40 but a 11.37 100 meter?
(my 2000th post)

Because he doesn't run a 4.38 40 lol! Pumped to have him here, but the 40 time compared to 100 screams that the 40 time is fudged. 97.8934% of high school football athletes, trying to get a D1 scholarship, fudge their times. You would too.

Someone will probably jump down my throat and say, well Sparq timed him it's legit! If you were a company like Sparq and you tested kids measurables, and gave them all slow times, do you think they would comeback?? It's all about retention for Sparq.

Take every high school athlete 40 time with a Mark Mangio size grain of salt.

 

[cyhiphopp]

Because he doesn't run a 4.38 40 lol! Pumped to have him here, but the 40 time compared to 100 screams that the 40 time is fudged. 97.8934% of high school football athletes, trying to get a D1 scholarship, fudge their times. You would too.

Someone will probably jump down my throat and say, well Sparq timed him it's legit! If you were a company like Sparq and you tested kids measurables, and gave them all slow times, do you think they would comeback?? It's all about retention for Sparq.

Take every high school athlete 40 time with a Mark Mangio size grain of salt.

It's likely slower, but I'm guessing he's still pretty fast overall.

 

[Stormin]

Are they where they are at defensively because they are that good, or did the quality of opponents have a large impact on those results? And, are we one of those lesser quality teams in terms of our inability to establish an effective run game? The answer is quality of opponents plays a huge role and yes, we are one of those lesser teams in terms of run game.

We have played some very good rushing defenses. All in the Top 16. Perhaps that is contributing to our rushing woes. Quality of opponent defenses has been a factor as well as our own inadequacies.

 

[temperflare]

We have played some very good rushing defenses. All in the Top 16. Perhaps that is contributing to our rushing woes. Quality of opponent defenses has been a factor as well as our own inadequacies.

Given our 3 year trend, it is more likely a result of our inadequacies. I think most reasonable people would agree with this.

In the end, we desperately need to reverse the trend and in a big way. We can all agree to that.

 

[Stormin]

Given our 3 year trend, it is more likely a result of our inadequacies. I think most reasonable people would agree with this.

In the end, we desperately need to reverse the trend and in a big way. We can all agree to that.

Rushing Stats from 2008-2014

2008 1,661 yds. 4.12 ypc

2009 2,338 yds. 4.54 ypc

2010 1,718 yds. 3.78 ypc

2011 2,265 yds. 4.22 ypc

2012 1,951 yds. 4.2 ypc

2013 1,726 yds. 3.54 ypc

2014 416 yds. 3.38 ypc


Yes, we need to reverse the trend. I look for the numbers to improve in the latter half of our schedule. We have not had a workhorse type back since A-Rob so it is a little unfair to look at single RB stats and 1,000 yard rushers. So I looked at team rushing stats. We have highly variable stats and effectiveness. But one can conclude that we went bowling when we rushed for over 4 yards per carry. So unless the numbers improve, it will be difficult to get wins. CPR has addressed that we need to get this fixed.

 

[ribsnwhiskey]

Given our 3 year trend, it is more likely a result of our inadequacies. I think most reasonable people would agree with this.

In the end, we desperately need to reverse the trend and in a big way. We can all agree to that.

If you were reasonable, you'd acknowledge that it is a factor of the defenses we've faced. Baylor's defense is the real deal this year. Iowa and KSU always have good run defenses. NDSU, well, they are a lot better than I ever thought an FCS team could be.

Also, why use a 3 year trend? Especially considering the first 2 years were under a different and completely inept OC. We are 4 games into a new offense and have played one of, if not the toughest schedules in the nation. What were you expecting honestly?