Step away from the ledge
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I went over the ledge last year. I was looking for a rock to grab on the way down...still don't see one. I'm not sure how anyone can have anything more than blind hope. I'm not mad, I just don't see the light at the end of the tunnel. I hope for the staff and kids and loyal fans that it turns around but that doesn't mean I will lie and say I see it happening.
Jacktronic
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I agree with most of what you said. Most. I agree that calling out players individually is completely unacceptable. These are kids who chose to play for Iowa State, and for that they have my respect. It is pathetic for an adult to criticize a young man over an internet message board because he feels he isn't good enough to play. And even if the player did not play well, or made a mistake during a game, I feel it is because the coaching staff failed him or did not put him into a position to succeed. I also agree that posters calling out CW is unacceptable, and downright bizarre, though most of it seems to be anonymous trolls.
However, I feel it is completely acceptable to call out the coaching staff. They are adults, and are paid professionals whose salary is funded by us. The success and failure of this program can be directly laid at their feet. With the level of loyalty of this fanbase, and with what we have given financially and emotionally, it is our right to express displeasure about the product being put on the field. I disagree with the manner in which some posters express their anger, but many post well thought-out, rational, evidence based complaints. And they should be able to. I like Paul Rhoads, he seems like a nice guy, but my loyalty is to Iowa State, and it is becoming very distressing watching what is happening to our program.
Very well said.
Some of the posters that wanted to give Rhoads a lifetime blank check 3 years ago are now calling for him to be fired. No one likes losing to NDSU by 20 but 1) let's be realistic, no one is getting fired after 1 game (or after this year) and 2) don't make all Cyclone fans looks like idiots by freaking the f out over ONE game. Yes it sucks we lost but the sky hasn't fallen on this program.
A lot of people paid a lot of money thinking this year would be different. The new coaches looked good. The talent was getting better through recruiting. Instead they were surprised it was worse. Getting beat by North Dakota local boys at JTS is an embarrassment to Jack.
I mostly agree, but I disagree that I'm freaking out over ONE game. I'm freaking out over at least the last 13 games. Probably more than that if I go back far enough.
Unfortunately, you can't take those two long runs away. But I agree the defense was decent against the run...except for some major lapses. Which really hurt.
But we knew last year would be a struggle. We were told we were building for the future. I can take a down year. But back to back awful years will be tough to swallow. But let's not give up completely after 8% of the season.
Wally himself said that with this young, but athletic defense we'd probably see us give up some big plays because we're out of position, but that we'd also probably make some big plays too with our athleticism.
We did in fact give up some big plays, problem was, we didn't make any on our end. No turnovers and one sack isn't enough big plays, sorry.
Agreed. Everyone and their brother (including the actual coaches) knew the offense was going to have to put up many more points to offset the young defense. And that didn't happen either. So we were 0-2 in "things we had to do" to win. And that's how you lose by 20 to a 1AA team.
We must be the only Power 5 conference team that requires multiple "rebuilding" years after going a whopping 6-7.
I don't see a lot of people jumping off a ledge. I see a lot of really ****** off fans that have been asked to be patient, support the team financially and otherwise, and are tired of the same terrible product being put out on the football field any given Saturday. Enough is enough.
AD needs to stop demanding excellence and more money from fans when we have been given the same garbage football we have always had. It's like cable. You pay more for the same inferior product you always had. We got absolutely embarrassed by a div 2 team for the second season in a row. Inexcusable and everyone should be ******.
I don't know what goat ISU fans killed or what we ever did to **** off the football Gods but dammit we deserve better.
I don't see a lot of people jumping off a ledge. I see a lot of really ****** off fans that have been asked to be patient, support the team financially and otherwise, and are tired of the same terrible product being put out on the football field any given Saturday. Enough is enough.
AD needs to stop demanding excellence and more money from fans when we have been given the same garbage football we have always had. It's like cable. You pay more for the same inferior product you always had. We got absolutely embarrassed by a div 2 team for the second season in a row. Inexcusable and everyone should be ******.
I don't know what goat ISU fans killed or what we ever did to **** off the football Gods but dammit we deserve better.
You don't deserve anything. Even if you give money it's your own fault for investing in a bad product. It's okay to be upset, but don't make it sound like the football team personally owes you something.
I was a lurker for awhile..Tried posting for awhile..found out I should read rather than post, as the other posters seem to know a lot more than I do...If I dont have a thousand posts, does that make me a bandwagon fan? I graduated in 95..got asked "why do you still wear that hat?" more times than I can count..
My brother will get the O going and all will be well. Mark my words, and also my brother. His favorite is Canadian bacon with black olives and mushrooms. :wideeyed:
Thank you. This is what I was trying to say in a previous thread but you worded it much better
good post, actually if you read the 4000 posts in the NDSU Iowa State thread, you can pick out the "doucher" isu fans pretty easily. What I don't understand is.... Is some of your fanbase not knowledgable enough about college football to know that NDSU is actually quite a good program? maybe that's where the problem lies.
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