Shonn Greene's effect on EIU's season
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He is/was good. 1800 some yards and like 22 TD's? I would say he had an impact. I would also say this subject has been beaten to death on this board.
CycloneErik
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Yeah, as others have said, I think Hampton would have been fine. Their offensive line is among the best in the country.
Let's see, off the top of my head, not Maine, not FIU, not Wisconsin, not Minnesota, not Indiana, not South Carolina, and probably not Iowa State.
Probably Penn State, Maybe Purdue.
So one more, maybe two.
The difference, I suspect, would be they lose a few games worse than they did, and don't have as many dominating wins.
How many games would Florida have lost this year without Tim Tebow? Texas without Colt McCoy? What's your point? Iowa isn't allowed to have a real, standout, impact player?
Fair point. There are lots of teams, especially in college that rely heavily on one player. How many games does ISU win during Seneca's senior year without him? I'd say about 3. Maybe less. I do think Greene's impact was bigger than most Hawk fans think.
Outstanding post! LOL! Living in eastern Iowa...all I hear from the delusional ones (Hawk fans) is that Iowa won't miss a beat with Hampton replacing Greene! He is better than Greene...just needs experience. This is only a SLIGHT exaggeration as every player on the Iowa roster is better is going to develop into an all-Big Ten type player! So I hear...
I think Iowa would have had the same record without him. I think he's a tad overrated actually.
Jewel Hampton, I believe, would have done VERY well with the same blocking as Greene had. Granted, Greene would have broken more tackles, but I think Hampton would have made up for it with more elusiveness and speed.
Iowa will be good again next year. Not great by any means, but good. As we have all seen, the Big 10 was WEAK. That enabled Iowa to get to a better bowl than they deserved... and then they got extremely lucky to get South Carolina for their matchup. They were awful IMO.
But Iowa will win 7 games next year and go to another bowl they don't deserve because of how their fans travel. What else is new?
Jewel Hampton, I believe, would have done VERY well with the same blocking as Greene had. Granted, Greene would have broken more tackles, but I think Hampton would have made up for it with more elusiveness and speed.
Iowa will be good again next year. Not great by any means, but good. As we have all seen, the Big 10 was WEAK. That enabled Iowa to get to a better bowl than they deserved... and then they got extremely lucky to get South Carolina for their matchup. They were awful IMO.
But Iowa will win 7 games next year and go to another bowl they don't deserve because of how their fans travel. What else is new?
Probably true, but they aren't losing the two cupcakes, and it's hard to quantify the impact in the Wisc, S. Car, Minn, and Indiana games that were won by an average of 33 points.
Like I said they still probably win those, just not handily.
Argue what you want about Purdue Penn State and ISU. Really, I think the Purdue game is the best lock for which they lose without him, since greene carried the team in that game with 200+ yards.
I think you could make a case for the other two to go either way and not be wrong, as Greene wasn't the sole, or even main reason they won those.
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Funny! :yes: But in fairness to DJK and SouthernHawk, they aren't really the "koolaid drinking" sorts. Both seem to have a reasonably rational perspective on their favorite team. I'm sure it isn't hard to find Iowa fans who fit your assumptions, though.
1. If you think the best running back in the country is over-rated, you must have pretty high standards. Other than his offensive line, there is no reason to say that he was overrated in any category. Yeah, they cleared some pretty big holes for him, but he created his own lanes or broke tackles just as often. Please, how exactly is Shonn Greene over-rated?
2. This ridiculous argument again. Bowl games aren't about who deserved to be there.
3. You answered your own question. Nice job - just remember that next year if Iowa gets a bowl game they don't deserve.
I don't give a crap, the season is over for all I care I would find it hilarious if hes a bust though, just my 2 cents worth. Go State!
