Rumor: ND in talks to join as Full member of ACC

[jbhtexas]

Indeed.

My private fantasy is everybody sits down, thinks about what they've done, and reorganizes the sport into geographically and historically sensible conferences.

Roughly 80-100 teams make the cut.

That would be nice. What I am afraid would happen if everybody sat down is that in the face of dwindling revenues, the TV people tell the schools they need a significantly more big matchup each week to keep the payouts up, and about 40 of the bigger-name schools break away from the NCAA to form a premier league, and take most of the money with them...

 

[Sigmapolis]

That would be nice. What I am afraid would happen if everybody sat down is that in the face of dwindling revenues, the TV people tell the schools they need a significantly more big matchup each week to keep the payouts up, and about 40 of the bigger-name schools break away from the NCAA to form a premier league, and take most of the money with them...

I would hope they realize that geographic diffusion, where TV deals said to spread yourself as thin and far away as possible -- rather than forming "islands chains" were live attendance is the true emphasis was much the problem in the first place.

Putting Ohio State and Alabama in the same conference will not help with that.

8 geographical conferences of 10 teams (a full round-robin) for an 8 team playoff (or maybe 12 with some wild cards) would be absolutely gorgeous

 

[laminak]

I would hope they realize that geographic diffusion, where TV deals said to spread yourself as thin and far away as possible -- rather than forming "islands chains" were live attendance is the true emphasis was much the problem in the first place.

Putting Ohio State and Alabama in the same conference will not help with that.

8 geographical conferences of 10 teams (a full round-robin) for an 8 team playoff (or maybe 12 with some wild cards) would be absolutely gorgeous

Would Ohio State and Alabama want to be in the same conference? Do these schools want to sacrifice their path to the national championship for more money on top of what they're already getting?

 

[Sigmapolis]

Would Ohio State and Alabama want to be in the same conference? Do these schools want to sacrifice their path to the national championship for more money on top of what they're already getting?

Another good point.

Some traditional powers are going to have to get used to going 4-8 if they all the sudden cannot hide in a small pond and pretend to be a big fish.

Ohio State and Michigan can keep playing one real game against each other most years and spend the rest of the time clobbering Midwestern schools.

I just felt around 80 was about right. All the current P5 schools, Notre Dame and BYU, and pick up the best few teams out of the American and MWC and boom.

 

[iahawks]

Indeed.

My private fantasy is everybody sits down, thinks about what they've done, and reorganizes the sport into geographically and historically sensible conferences.

Roughly 80-100 teams make the cut.

I agree with this. Not a fan of all this expansion. Bad for the NCAA in the long run. Such a short term myopic approach to things imo.

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

That is hilarious

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/31/...arolina-final-four-cheating-fake-classes.html

That has nothing to do with my post. The ACC has academic standard and there's a reason WV was passed on before.

 

[TykeClone]

That has nothing to do with my post. The ACC has academic standard and there's a reason WV was passed on before.

No. They don't. You can't claim that you have standards when your headline school offers fake classes for athletes.

 

[CyCrazy]

That has nothing to do with my post. The ACC has academic standard and there's a reason WV was passed on before.

You dumb if you believe that ********.

 

[CyCrazy]

I agree with this. Not a fan of all this expansion. Bad for the NCAA in the long run. Such a short term myopic approach to things imo.

Enjoy playing Rutgers and Maryland. ******* realingment is killing my love for college sports. Its flat out dumb.

 

[clonedude]

If dominoes do start to fall, and everyone starts scrambling, then I'd like to see the Big 12 and Pac12 combine to form one big conference.

Having said that, that is NOT what I wish to happen. I hate all this expansion. I loved the days of the Big 8, the Big 10 with only 10 teams, etc, etc.

But if everything goes to hell, then I'd like to see a Big 12 Pac 12 merger.

 

[NATEizKING]

Enjoy playing Rutgers and Maryland. ******* realingment is killing my love for college sports. Its flat out dumb.

I like how it turned out for Big 12 basketball. No nights off.

 

[Sigmapolis]

I like how it turned out for Big 12 basketball. No nights off.

You'd have a pretty solid basketball conference in the old Big 8, too, if still around.

 

[Clonehomer]

That would be nice. What I am afraid would happen if everybody sat down is that in the face of dwindling revenues, the TV people tell the schools they need a significantly more big matchup each week to keep the payouts up, and about 40 of the bigger-name schools break away from the NCAA to form a premier league, and take most of the money with them...

The thing is that you can't have just the Saturday night showcase games to survive. You have to fill time slots to justify the money that is being charged to consumers. If you drop half the power teams around the country, you'll lose too many fans to make up with the increased ratings of just the premiere games alone.

And when the money dries up, what'll be more important than ever is travel budgets. You can bring coaches salaries back down to reasonable levels and cut back on construction projects (assuming you haven't already mortgaged your future). But you can't start dropping sports without getting sued for title IX compliance. It's a lot cheaper to send the swimming team from Texas to Oklahoma than it is to send them to California. Regional conferences will come back in favor. But there will be a lot of dominoes to fall between now and then.

 

[Sigmapolis]

The thing is that you can't have just the Saturday night showcase games to survive. You have to fill time slots to justify the money that is being charged to consumers. If you drop half the power teams around the country, you'll lose too many fans to make up with the increased ratings of just the premiere games alone.

And when the money dries up, what'll be more important than ever is travel budgets. You can bring coaches salaries back down to reasonable levels and cut back on construction projects (assuming you haven't already mortgaged your future). But you can't start dropping sports without getting sued for title IX compliance. It's a lot cheaper to send the swimming team from Texas to Oklahoma than it is to send them to California. Regional conferences will come back in favor. But there will be a lot of dominoes to fall between now and then.

Think of the students themselves, too.

It must suck to be on like WVU's tennis team, flying to the Midwest and Southwest constantly, instead of busing to nearby places such as...

Pittsburgh
State College
College Park
Huntington
Columbus
Cincinnati
Blacksburg
Charlottesville
Annapolis

...and the like. So many potential tickets never sold to road fans, too.

I love WVU being in the Big 12 -- I can drive to a basketball and football game from DC. My fortune is the misfortune of our core fan base in central Iowa, though.

 

[im4cyclones]

Christ, so tired of this hanging out there year after year. However it plays out, just get it done and over with.

 

[CyCrazy]

Christ, so tired of this hanging out there year after year. However it plays out, just get it done and over with.

Agree how ever it shakes out I want it done.

 

[1976]

There are idiots in twitter claiming OU and Texas to the Big 10..lol

 

[Clonehomer]

There are idiots in twitter claiming OU and Texas to the Big 10..lol

Delanys gonna be pissed when he finds out about that GOR.

 

[CascadeClone]

Indeed.
My private fantasy is everybody sits down, thinks about what they've done, and reorganizes the sport into geographically and historically sensible conferences.

Roughly 80-100 teams make the cut.

My first thought is "I totally agree and have thought the same."

Second thought is "Aww, aren't you cute."

 

[1976]

Delanys gonna be pissed when he finds out about that GOR.

No kidding, oh and he will be surprised when Texas tells him that they aren't giving up the LHN.