Mike Johnson is the last gray shirt I remember. He's a 22 year old redshirt freshman now.
RECRUITING: The Tyler Jost situation
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Mike Johnson is the last gray shirt I remember. He's a 22 year old redshirt freshman now.
My guess is that there is going to be a couple of surprises coming down the pipeline. Maybe Chandler signs with the good guys? Maybe they are in a really good spot with a couple of highly touted JUCO's? All I know is that I trust this staffs recruiting ability and judgement, so if they needed to switch Jost to a gray shirt there is probably a pretty good reason.
Just stinks for the kid because as he stated...
He was clearly loyal to ISU and wasn't entertaining any other offers.
But, at the same time, he should have plenty of other good schools to choose from with this much time left.
It's too bad that he didn't like the grey shirt offer, but the staff HAS to have good reasoning for this.
He was clearly loyal to ISU and wasn't entertaining any other offers.
But, at the same time, he should have plenty of other good schools to choose from with this much time left.
It's too bad that he didn't like the grey shirt offer, but the staff HAS to have good reasoning for this.
Yeah, I knew about him. I seem to remember that being more of an academic situation though
And to the crowd who's thinking "why our highest rated and not one of the other OL commits" I again can say with good confidence that.
1. Nogaj and Kleinow are viewed as the top two graded OL commits, regardless of what recruiting sites say.
2. You definitely don't want the PR nightmare that would come with doing that to a kid from Ames (Newell).
I wish Jost would have taken the GS, but to me it states that maybe his senior film has been less impressive than the others (Newell excluded for obvious reasons).
1. Nogaj and Kleinow are viewed as the top two graded OL commits, regardless of what recruiting sites say.
2. You definitely don't want the PR nightmare that would come with doing that to a kid from Ames (Newell).
I wish Jost would have taken the GS, but to me it states that maybe his senior film has been less impressive than the others (Newell excluded for obvious reasons).
grayshirts are common in that most schools use them from time to time. It is a bit uncommon to offer someone you already offered a full ride to but that's not unheard of either.
yes and no. I'm sure they have good reason to be wanting an extra scholarship to offer, but we'll never know if they had good reason to ask him (over the other recruits). My suspicion is they asked him because they thought he would agree to it.
Could be the case. Especially since he seemed very solid to ISU. That's worst case scenario, IMO.
If they thought he was far and away the best o-line prospect they had, they wouldn't have asked. But I'm also dubious that they thought he was the worst o-line prospect they had. My belief is they thought it was close enough between all three, they wanted all three but needed another scholly and asked the guy they thought would accept it.
It's the nature of the beast.
Here's the message I'm getting.
If you are an immediate impact recruit we'll find a spot for you.
If you're a kid we feel can develop you may need a gray shirt.
This is why you recruit above your level, let the guys the SEC schools are over recruiting know they have another option. If you settle for kids you know you can keep the results meet the expectations.
Here's the message I'm getting.
If you are an immediate impact recruit we'll find a spot for you.
If you're a kid we feel can develop you may need a gray shirt.
This is why you recruit above your level, let the guys the SEC schools are over recruiting know they have another option. If you settle for kids you know you can keep the results meet the expectations.
Not the way I remember it at all. Don't remember academics being an issue at all. We were full. If Mike Johnson wanted to come to ISU it had to be as a grayshirt. And that is the route he took.
It is still mid-November. And there is plenty of time for this young man to go another route. He would just be delaying his full time enrollment by 1 semester and would then be on full scholarship. I remember a few years back when Ole Miss had a really big recruiting class. At the very last minute almost, Ole Miss pretty much forced grayshirts on about a half dozen recruits. We lost a LB recruit to Ole Miss that year.
We have generally had 1 or 2 or 3 grayshirts every year. If someone decommitted then they could get an immediate scholarship.
How is this in any way, related to Iowa? Iowa offers grayshirts to many kids, they don't offer a scholarship, then pull and ask them to gray shirt.
I have no idea how good Tyler Jost is or will eventually be ... I would throw the offensive line "rankings" around pretty loosely though if I were you guys. It's a brutal position to evaluate. Nobody really knows.
Clearly they aren't high on him anymore and the JUCO thing was something was a way to try and let him down easy.
Grey shirts are not uncommon and most are given out in January as teams figure out where they are in the class. The difference is that most grey shirt offers are a step up for the kid, either from a regular walk-on or for a kid that committed to a lower level school like UNI or whatever. Offering a kid a grey shirt after he has been committed for 7 months as a full scholarship is crap. As he said in his tweet, the coaches told him in April "You commit to us and we'll commit to you." He shut down other schools from recruiting him for much of the most important months of his recruitment.
this is silly. They wouldn't have had any more negative press just by pulling his scholarship so if they din't want him, they wouldn't have offered him a grayshirt.
Made some more calls this morning ... one source doesn't know where Jost got the JUCO stuff from so keep that in the back of your mind.
I honestly don't know though.
My gut tells me they will sniff out a JUCO or two if they can find them. After watching this year's line, you can't blame the staff for wanting some more immediate help.
However as we all know, JUCO's basically have a 1 in 3 chance of working out up front anyway.
I honestly don't know though.
My gut tells me they will sniff out a JUCO or two if they can find them. After watching this year's line, you can't blame the staff for wanting some more immediate help.
However as we all know, JUCO's basically have a 1 in 3 chance of working out up front anyway.
