RECRUITING: Potential addition to the 2014 class

[EYEoftheSTORM]

Lets see, would you rather play in the soon to be very ****** AAC, or the XII...

Tough choice...

 

[Frak]

So I assume that you are choosing to ignore the Orlando Sentinel article that states that Iowa State and Cincy are recruiting Gooch as a middle linebacker and Indiana is recruiting him as a DE ?

Well, his SR highlights on Hudl has him listed at 250. Tell me the last time ISU brought in a defensive player at 250 that ended up playing LB. Guessing never. That's as big or bigger than both our starting DEs last year. If he's set on playing LB, I'm sure our coaches will start him out there. I'm just guessing as he bulks up, he sees the opportunity for more playing time with his hand on the ground. I actually think that he could be a dominant DT in 3 years.

 

[Tre4ISU]

Well, his SR highlights on Hudl has him listed at 250. Tell me the last time ISU brought in a defensive player at 250 that ended up playing LB. Guessing never. That's as big or bigger than both our starting DEs last year. If he's set on playing LB, I'm sure our coaches will start him out there. I'm just guessing as he bulks up, he sees the opportunity for more playing time with his hand on the ground. I actually think that he could be a dominant DT in 3 years.

I doubt he's 250. He's not built like Miller is where it just looks like they will outgrow the position. Gooch really just looks more developed than a lot of 240 lb kids. He doesn't have the frame to carry 30 more lbs and be sufficient at DE or DT IMO.

 

[Frak]

I doubt he's 250. He's not built like Miller is where it just looks like they will outgrow the position. Gooch really just looks more developed than a lot of 240 lb kids. He doesn't have the frame to carry 30 more lbs and be sufficient at DE or DT IMO.

We'll see. I think that he's got a bigger frame than Miller. Definitely bigger than Willie Scott.

 

[Tre4ISU]

We'll see. I think that he's got a bigger frame than Miller. Definitely bigger than Willie Scott.

So if you're bigger than 230 lbs you can't play LBer and have to move to DE. He doesn't have a bigger frame than Miller. It wouldn't surprise me if Miller has to manage his weight pretty closely.

 

[temperflare]

So if you're bigger than 230 lbs you can't play LBer and have to move to DE. He doesn't have a bigger frame than Miller. It wouldn't surprise me if Miller has to manage his weight pretty closely.

Just to toss this in: Tim Dobbins was 244 lbs.

I agree if Gooch got to 250 or above that would hinder his speed at LB (ideally) and make him less mobile so he probably does need to manage his weight a little bit. But he is young, so he could still grow into a DT/DE size.

 

[State43]

That Jackson guy from Tulsa was heavier than that and under 6'. As I recall, he was a beast.

 

[bozclone]

Jake Knott and A.J. Klein both weighed in the 240-250 range and they really struggled to play LB for us. Looking back on it we should have moved them to DE and DT. :goofy:

 

[IAStubborn]

I posted on the recruiting thread but did the class calculator for Gooch and Gray. They would bump us up to 199+ class points moving us from 51st to 34th. We got less of a bump from them last week so more proof the methodology is whacky. Also would put us firmly in 5th place in the conference. Not that it means much except for more outside validation that this is.shaping up to be a nice class.

 

[Stormin]

Gooch is what we need at LB. IMO, a recruit we need and a priority. Really helps our LB's for the future.

 

[CyFan61]

I posted on the recruiting thread but did the class calculator for Gooch and Gray. They would bump us up to 199+ class points moving us from 51st to 34th. We got less of a bump from them last week so more proof the methodology is whacky. Also would put us firmly in 5th place in the conference. Not that it means much except for more outside validation that this is.shaping up to be a nice class. View attachment 24588

Landing Gooch and Gray would be huge. Amazing work by this staff even amidst coaching changes and after a 3-9 season.

 

[ribsnwhiskey]

Gray isn't coming here.

 

[4theCYcle]

Gray isn't coming here.

I need a link for this.

 

[Stormin]

Gray isn't coming here.

Possibility he may. Probability he won't IMO.

 

[State43]

I posted on the recruiting thread but did the class calculator for Gooch and Gray. They would bump us up to 199+ class points moving us from 51st to 34th. We got less of a bump from them last week so more proof the methodology is whacky. Also would put us firmly in 5th place in the conference. Not that it means much except for more outside validation that this is.shaping up to be a nice class. View attachment 24588

Of course you would have to take into account that other programs are waiting for last second commits as well so there could be huge fluxuations accross the board.

 

[DrShekelstein]

Nick naming him gucci mang if he comes here

 

[IAStubborn]

Of course you would have to take into account that other programs are waiting for last second commits as well so there could be huge fluxuations accross the board.

True...why we dropped a couple the last 2 days. Others in this range could get de-commits too if the Alabama and such do their nsd drama steels. Could be a wash or up or down but that is how they would move right now .

 

[Dandy]

Possibility he may. Probability he won't IMO.

So you're telling me there's a chance

 

[DuckDynastyCy]

Students-If you see Gooch at the game, give him some love and tell him "welcome to Iowa State".

 

[Wesley]

Knott. Klein. George. Gooch. Makes sense.