For T.J. Otzelberger, every minute counts
Everything in the Cyclones' program is meticulously planned, down to the gameday attire. And it has resulted in two straight regional semis.
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Really good article on TJ from The Athletic
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I read that this morning as well.
There are some really good quotes in there from Jamie, Tre, and Micah Byers.
There are some really good quotes in there from Jamie, Tre, and Micah Byers.
Great article.
I think this should settle some oft-repeated discussion on decisions made back in 2015.
It goes on further, but it seems like everything worked out. TJ is clearly better than Prohm now, and may have even been then, but he (and we) benefitted from him having the chance to get mistakes out of the way somewhere else. And let's be honest, following Hoiberg, if he had made those mistakes here the fan base would have eaten him alive given his lack of prior head coaching experience.
I think this should settle some oft-repeated discussion on decisions made back in 2015.
It goes on further, but it seems like everything worked out. TJ is clearly better than Prohm now, and may have even been then, but he (and we) benefitted from him having the chance to get mistakes out of the way somewhere else. And let's be honest, following Hoiberg, if he had made those mistakes here the fan base would have eaten him alive given his lack of prior head coaching experience.
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Agree, first id seen any actual info vs speculation.
Sure, maybe Leath still make JP to that route...but this reads as it wasn't that.
Exactly.
Not hiring TJ then was the right call. He worked out the kinks of being a head coach somewhere else and knew what he was doing and how he wanted to do it by the time he got here.
Being a head coach for the first time at a school like ISU is a big ask.
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Wow. That was a total blank on my end. I was thinking Wayne Morgan and had forgotten Fred had no coaching experience.
Unfortunately, I let my subscription to The Atlantic expire, so I was only able to read the first part. Have to say the regimentation of so many little things gave me vibes of Chizik and Prohm. Please help me get that thought out of my mind.
Ehh….ir works when you’re winning! It could cause trouble when you hit a down slide. But I think being sincere goes a long ways.
And I’d disagree it’s like prohm. I think he really tried not to rock the boat when he came in. Fred let them do what they wanted and that worked. Prohm tried to do the same and that sort of hurt things. And while the last two years were disasters, it wasn’t like the whole thing was an unmitigated disaster. It was a perfectly average few years that was not any worse than a lot of schools.
If you open it in reader mode in your browser you can bypass the paywall
I initially thought the same thing about Chizik, but Chizik was all sizzle and no steak. He did things on the surface to get attention, but was terrible at the things that mattered. Similarly, he also had no head coaching experience, but had never really coached anywhere that didn't have blue chip talent, so it shouldn't be a surprise that he was in way over his head at ISU.
My guess is that TJ learned just as much from Hoiberg and Prohm how NOT to run a program, and applied that at his first two gigs, which is what this article alludes to.
That is a fantastic article. Makes me want to make changes in my own life.
CycloneErik
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Go to Print and then Save to pdf. I believe that should work.
TJ also made USA today for his skin tight shirts:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...zelberger-polo-shirts-iowa-state/73109770007/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...zelberger-polo-shirts-iowa-state/73109770007/
I can confirm this worked like a charm. Thank you!
Pro tip: be sure to select print before you scroll down.
