Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

2speedy1

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Why would they cancel this if that were the case? It would just be baked in.

Smells more like Nebraskan bitchassedness to me.
Supposedly it is because they want at least 8 home games, and having a home and home would not allow this. At least that was Neb AD excuse.
 
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If the only way for the Big 12 Conference to compete with the SEC and Big 10 is take take on what sounds like credit card debt... We need to have a serious conversation about the medium to large term alignment of our beloved school...

I'd rather compete on a level playing field, below those two leagues than mortgage my athletic fandom future, just to lose in the first round of the CFP!
 

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Doesn't make sense to me that something relatively guaranteed safe (universities) would be paying CCC rates.
Also, I don't think it makes any sense to just go borrow money from the capital markets for what must be a one-time shock type problem. I have been very open to some kind of capital or equity partner, but just borrowing money makes no sense to me. Why not just issue your own bonds at 5% and appeal to your fanbase? Why not ask the state gov for low (or no) interest loan to pay back over X years?

If you want to tap equity markets you need a partner that has a plan or some kind of useful skill/business model that you can leverage to grow the brand/market. Someone that already owns sports teams/leagues, or owns other media outlets, or a new sportswear brand, or SOMETHING. Just borrowing money makes no sense to me. There's cheaper ways to get cash.
 

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Doesn't make sense to me that something relatively guaranteed safe (universities) would be paying CCC rates.
Also, I don't think it makes any sense to just go borrow money from the capital markets for what must be a one-time shock type problem. I have been very open to some kind of capital or equity partner, but just borrowing money makes no sense to me. Why not just issue your own bonds at 5% and appeal to your fanbase? Why not ask the state gov for low (or no) interest loan to pay back over X years?

If you want to tap equity markets you need a partner that has a plan or some kind of useful skill/business model that you can leverage to grow the brand/market. Someone that already owns sports teams/leagues, or owns other media outlets, or a new sportswear brand, or SOMETHING. Just borrowing money makes no sense to me. There's cheaper ways to get cash.
Agreed, I thought schools might just be selling their souls by giving up a certain percentage of rights to the league/media dollars. This just just pure loan shark level stuff.

Plenty of ways to get cheaper amounts of money, plus with how bad schools are at managing finances (looking at you Arizona) how soon till one of these “loans” causes real damage to the school.
 
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Doesn't make sense to me that something relatively guaranteed safe (universities) would be paying CCC rates.
Also, I don't think it makes any sense to just go borrow money from the capital markets for what must be a one-time shock type problem. I have been very open to some kind of capital or equity partner, but just borrowing money makes no sense to me. Why not just issue your own bonds at 5% and appeal to your fanbase? Why not ask the state gov for low (or no) interest loan to pay back over X years?

If you want to tap equity markets you need a partner that has a plan or some kind of useful skill/business model that you can leverage to grow the brand/market. Someone that already owns sports teams/leagues, or owns other media outlets, or a new sportswear brand, or SOMETHING. Just borrowing money makes no sense to me. There's cheaper ways to get cash.
Yep, I wonder what fans could fill on a $50M preferred note at 7%?? I know a lot of retirees who'd take 7% with ISU baking the note. Plus Muni debt would give them added tax benefits!
 

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Agreed, I thought schools might just be selling their souls by giving up a certain percentage of rights to the league/media dollars. This just just pure loan shark level stuff.

Plenty of ways to get cheaper amounts of money, plus with how bad schools are at managing finances (looking at you Arizona) how soon till one of these “loans” causes real damage to the school.
Agreed, I thought schools might just be selling their souls by giving up a certain percentage of rights to the league/media dollars. This just just pure loan shark level stuff.

Plenty of ways to get cheaper amounts of money, plus with how bad schools are at managing finances (looking at you Arizona) how soon till one of these “loans” causes real damage to the school.
Your conference forced this on ours.

Just sit this one out. With any justice, your wealthy benefactors will be shoving this down your throat soon enough.
 

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Yep, I wonder what fans could fill on a $50M preferred note at 7%?? I know a lot of retirees who'd take 7% with ISU baking the note. Plus Muni debt would give them added tax benefits!
Lets you and me call Yormark. Just give us 5 basis points for the idea.

And tix to the bball tourney every year
 

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Jamie Pollard made an interesting observation on 365 sports last week. He said most pro sports teams lose money and the owners make their money in their equity investment. He said how do college sports do that? And that universities have had to step in big time already to subsidize many programs
 

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Wondering what we could spend all this money on actually. I get that we need money to compete but what else would this money got for at Iowa State. Our stadium is good. Almost everything is good. I don’t get it
Coaching costs and adding scholarships like the P2 will be doing after House

Facilities will also need updating to just maintain the gap with P2

But what we really need is for private capital to change the entire paradigm. When the game is stacked against you, blowing things up is best.
 

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maybe, at the end of the day, it would be better for the big 12, acc, and g5 to have their own college football playoff and remain profitable.

WVU plans to fully fund the house settlement, but at what cost? For the 1st time the university is going to have to subsidize the athletic dept. that's asinine.

the football would still be good in that scenario.
 

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Jamie Pollard made an interesting observation on 365 sports last week. He said most pro sports teams lose money and the owners make their money in their equity investment. He said how do college sports do that? And that universities have had to step in big time already to subsidize many programs

Pro teams lose money on paper. Their valuations increase as a result. In the meantime, those owners use those losses to take tax credits on profits from their other businesses. That’s the value in ownership, taxes. When the time comes to sell the team, they make all those losses back and still get those years of tax breaks.

College athletic departments don’t have that lucrative side job that has a huge tax burden to offset. And, they’re not going to sell the teams later. So running AD’s like a pro sports team doesn’t make sense.
 
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Wondering what we could spend all this money on actually. I get that we need money to compete but what else would this money got for at Iowa State. Our stadium is good. Almost everything is good. I don’t get it
The obvious number one priority for ISU would using PE cash to fully utilize the $20M athlete RevShare cap in the short term.
 

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Jamie Pollard made an interesting observation on 365 sports last week. He said most pro sports teams lose money and the owners make their money in their equity investment. He said how do college sports do that? And that universities have had to step in big time already to subsidize many programs
That’s not accurate at all. Of 174 professional sports teams Forbes reviewed in 2024, 28 were cash flow negative. And 15 of those were from the MLS.

 
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