Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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The Big10 is all in with linear network media money. That strategy can't be faulted in 2024-2030.

But what happens if streaming/subscription based live sports becomes the norm? Then timeslots on linear channels no longer matter.

Also, there's potential advertising rates will only support a ceiling for conference TV deals. The Big10/SEC might be approaching that ceiling.

If the Big12 can put teams in the CFP that win games, the Big12 has an opportunity to close the $ gap between Big10/SEC.
Exactly, and as you stated linear TV advertising has probably already reached their maximum capability. That being said, it's evident streaming has the most room for advertising 'creativity' and more accurate eyeball and buying metrics. I'm guessing OTA self advertising will start to steer traffic to the simulcast streaming channel, where your viewing/buying habits will be cross referenced with your internet search metrics to maximize their advertising dollar. It's far and away the most logical thing for them to do. "Mozy on over to our simulcast where you'll be able to save up to 50% on those items you've most recently inquired about." The model where everyone benefits. Of course san the "If your 65 or older and you have an itch on the back of your elbow, that could be a sign of <enter any debilitating disease>. We have your cure <enter some watered down herb from the Amazon>"
 

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The irony of the entire re-alignment drama of the past month is that, if the B1G came calling for ISU, everyone would be hair-on-fire all for it. It would be so awesome to have Nebby, Minnesota, UW, Illinois and EIU as conference rivals. And in most sports, we'd kick their ass non-stop.
Actually, not now. I believe the B1G is heading for many issues. First, as evidenced by WA/OR, they're struggling to finance their size. Not many people know this, but magazines have a degrading point of profitability as they grow over a certain size. I believe we'll see something similar to the B1G. If they don't see the ROI on their $70mil+, things will definitely compress next time around. Their advertising methodologies will be the key-pin to all of the conferences financial futures. Oh, don't get me wrong. They'll still get $$$, but think about it, how on earth do the Indiana types justify $70mil/year? And their shortfall has to be picked up the tOSU types. That spreadsheet is fragile.
 

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LOL not a fan of this crow guy the more I see his comments and comments about him. This made me laugh out loud. Oh, and Stew sucks.


In Crow's defense he is a peon. But, Apple is not. Apple, no doubt, has their finger on how to maximize profitability through technology. Crow, being what he is (a middle mouth), only tried to relate what was told to him by Apple; admittedly over his head. In that respect, he should've just said "Apple's history of ingenuity, places us in the best position to capitalize on technology."
 

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Ok, now time to discuss the many million dollar question. Anyone know what our current GOR is? Is it only as long as the current media contract? Or has someone stepped outside the box and buffered the GOR on either side? Does it have provisions to be modified to evade the same principles that other GORs may be broken over (assuming FSU wins)? Are the penalties only the media ownership? As we approach the next negotiation period it'll be essential to lasso those trying to leave. Unless, of course, we have a better plan to let them to leave.
 

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Ok, now time to discuss the many million dollar question. Anyone know what our current GOR is? Is it only as long as the current media contract? Or has someone stepped outside the box and buffered the GOR on either side? Does it have provisions to be modified to evade the same principles that other GORs may be broken over (assuming FSU wins)? Are the penalties only the media ownership? As we approach the next negotiation period it'll be essential to lasso those trying to leave. Unless, of course, we have a better plan to let them to leave.

The GOR is equal in length to the TV contract, which goes to summer 2031.

Seeing as Texas and Oklahoma backed away from a GOR fight, I feel good about it. Florida State may or may not fight it but remember this: FSU can hire great lawyers right now, but the ACC hired great ones to draft the GOR in anticipation of this exact scenario, too
 
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The GOR is equal in length to the TV contract, which goes to summer 2031.

Seeing as Texas and Oklahoma backed away from a GOR fight, I feel good about it. Florida State may or may not fight it but remember this: FSU can hire great lawyers right now, but the ACC hired great ones to draft the GOR in anticipation of this exact scenario, too

I don’t get the idea that the bottom schools in the ACC would just agree to disband the conference.

If you are the bottom 9-10 schools, the best possible deal you could get is to have 6~ teams leave, take their 100 million buyouts, and just distribute it to the remaining members along with whatever you could negotiate from their GoR buyouts. They’d make more on that than any TV rights. Then just continue as a 9-10 team league with your ESPN contract and a massive financial windfall.
 

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The technology is so amazing that Amazon offered the Big Ten more money than any of their other TV partners and the Big Ten still turned them down.
If I had known that streaming video was 23rd century tech, I'd have been more impressed about the last 10 years.
 

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since Yormark came all I've read is how aligned our conference is... ASU via Crow does not sound very aligned at all. This dude seems to have strongly supported every bad decision the PAC made the last 20 years. I like the idea of the sun devils in our conference, but I do fear this guy having a voice within our conference.
ASU board of regent will probably ask him to retire soon.
 

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since Yormark came all I've read is how aligned our conference is... ASU via Crow does not sound very aligned at all. This dude seems to have strongly supported every bad decision the PAC made the last 20 years. I like the idea of the sun devils in our conference, but I do fear this guy having a voice within our conference.
He wont be there forever.

Even Gordon P. Eaton found the door eventually.
 

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He was a lot better for athletics, as i recall. At least he wasnt actively anti-sports...
Correct. He at least wanted Iowa State to be the best Land Grant University in the Country in anything Iowa State did - including athletics. He (Martin Jischke) was definitely not anti-sports. He was the President (1991-2000) when Gene Smith, Tim Floyd and Dan McCarney were all hired - which were all solid hires that helped propel ISU forward athletically out of the malaise.
 
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The GOR is equal in length to the TV contract, which goes to summer 2031.

Seeing as Texas and Oklahoma backed away from a GOR fight, I feel good about it. Florida State may or may not fight it but remember this: FSU can hire great lawyers right now, but the ACC hired great ones to draft the GOR in anticipation of this exact scenario, too
Actually it is more then that. It is the tv contract plus the buyout fees. Buyout fee is a 99 year agreement.

 
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I really wish BY had made an example out of Crow and ASU and pulled the offer, and made known their snobbery and attitude was why the offer was pulled. Then let their own fanbase pick them apart.
They were a package deal. Big 12 couldn't get Arizona without ASU. It looks like UNC and NC State are going to be a package deal too, which is why they possibly could fall to the big 12. BIG would never take NC State, and the SEC wont take both.
 

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Actually, not now. I believe the B1G is heading for many issues. First, as evidenced by WA/OR, they're struggling to finance their size. Not many people know this, but magazines have a degrading point of profitability as they grow over a certain size. I believe we'll see something similar to the B1G. If they don't see the ROI on their $70mil+, things will definitely compress next time around. Their advertising methodologies will be the key-pin to all of the conferences financial futures. Oh, don't get me wrong. They'll still get $$$, but think about it, how on earth do the Indiana types justify $70mil/year? And their shortfall has to be picked up the tOSU types. That spreadsheet is fragile.
Unless they kick out those type of schools to replace more branded ones.
 

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Based on this from altimore’s Twitter feed I bet you can guess the school that wouldn’t fit the “big 10 model”. I think it starts with an O.
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Love it that iOwa is right down there with Oregon in all categories or lower even. It looks like iOwa doesn't fit the "big 10 model" either!