Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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Fun to read other conferences ideas lol

Hear me out (this coming from a young Oregon State fan): The PAC-12 and ACC combine to form the PAC (Pacific-Atlantic Conference) and pick off the Big-12 school and spread them between two “divisions”. The west has the current PAC-12 schools plus Kansas, K-State, Baylor, OK State, Texas Tech, BYU, Houston, and TCU. The East division is the ACC schools plus the remaining Big-12 schools. Then each “division” has 18 schools, with north and south sub-divisions, plus Notre Dame can do their own scheduling thing in a special central division… That would give each team (except Notre Dame) a set 8-game lineup each year plus 4 games to play teams not in their set sub-division. Let’s just do away with out-of-conference scheduling. I’m all for the banding together and forming an NFL-esque league with a 8-team secluded postseason.
 

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What is our obsession with elevating other programs?

Boise St
Memphis
Colorado State
New Mexico schools
San Diego St

We're fighting to stay relevant and we have fans that want to add programs that will take money out of our pockets.
It’s really weird. There are definitely better options, and that’s not even factoring in the likely scenario where we get a few ACC schools.
 

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It’s really weird. There are definitely better options, and that’s not even factoring in the likely scenario where we get a few ACC schools.
It wouldn’t the worst thing to even out a conference/divisions in the case where some of the Big 10 and SEC break away into their own ~24-32 team super conference. Until then, there’s the good chance of getting teams that are currently in the P5.
 

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If I'm not mistaken, Iowa sent by percentage the most soldiers to fight in the war of any Union state.

I’ve heard that too, but have never looked it up.

In 1860, Iowa had a population of 674,913 men, women and children, living in 124,098 households. Of this number, 116,000 men were eligible for military service.

Iowa sent roughly 73,150 men to fight, 11% of our total population, more per capita than any other state. Over the next four years 13,169, or one out of six, would die in the war.

Per the Iowa Sons of Union Veteran's of the Civil War web site https://www.iowasuvcw.org/

I've moved around a lot, and people usually don't think much of Iowa. When I was in New York I only found one person who could correctly identify the state on a blank US map. We have a lot to be proud of, and this is one of my favorite facts to cite. Probably #3 after the Atanasoff-Berry Computer and our work with the Manhattan project.
 

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In 1860, Iowa had a population of 674,913 men, women and children, living in 124,098 households. Of this number, 116,000 men were eligible for military service.

Iowa sent roughly 73,150 men to fight, 11% of our total population, more per capita than any other state. Over the next four years 13,169, or one out of six, would die in the war.

Per the Iowa Sons of Union Veteran's of the Civil War web site https://www.iowasuvcw.org/

I've moved around a lot, and people usually don't think much of Iowa. When I was in New York I only found one person who could correctly identify the state on a blank US map. We have a lot to be proud of, and this is one of my favorite facts to cite. Probably #3 after the Atanasoff-Berry Computer and our work with the Manhattan project.
Makes me wonder if my ancestors fought. Never asked and they would have shown up about that time.
 

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In 1860, Iowa had a population of 674,913 men, women and children, living in 124,098 households. Of this number, 116,000 men were eligible for military service.

Iowa sent roughly 73,150 men to fight, 11% of our total population, more per capita than any other state. Over the next four years 13,169, or one out of six, would die in the war.

Per the Iowa Sons of Union Veteran's of the Civil War web site https://www.iowasuvcw.org/

I've moved around a lot, and people usually don't think much of Iowa. When I was in New York I only found one person who could correctly identify the state on a blank US map. We have a lot to be proud of, and this is one of my favorite facts to cite. Probably #3 after the Atanasoff-Berry Computer and our work with the Manhattan project.

This is a weird one because multiple states make the claim. I believe at least Ohio, Vermont, and California all do
 

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In 1860, Iowa had a population of 674,913 men, women and children, living in 124,098 households. Of this number, 116,000 men were eligible for military service.

Iowa sent roughly 73,150 men to fight, 11% of our total population, more per capita than any other state. Over the next four years 13,169, or one out of six, would die in the war.

Per the Iowa Sons of Union Veteran's of the Civil War web site https://www.iowasuvcw.org/

I've moved around a lot, and people usually don't think much of Iowa. When I was in New York I only found one person who could correctly identify the state on a blank US map. We have a lot to be proud of, and this is one of my favorite facts to cite. Probably #3 after the Atanasoff-Berry Computer and our work with the Manhattan project.
Cool stuff. I did a full ancestry.com membership and it's pretty amazing the things you can find out about your lineage. I had a few in the Civil War, also had a 5th great grandfather who was a general in the Revolutionary War.
 

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It might move to a P2-only model eventually, but I don't see that happening in the next 10 years. There will be the P2 and a third conference that garners enough money and interest to be part of the playoff. In that scenario, ISU maintains their current attendance assuming we're included and Campbell keeps us on the same trajectory.

I think a lot of people are jumping the gun on immediate consolidation and exclusion of half of the current P5 schools.

agree

IF the Big 12 can get this to a P3 setup, in which the 3 has the only non-P2 auto and access to at least one more berth, the networks keep 20-24 schools of fans very interested in the sport while still having the benefit of consolidation driving up P2 value and providing more "big name" matchups. The fans of the "3" actually have improvement in access to CFP and improvement in the ability to win their conference. I think I'd be an even bigger ISU fan in some ways knowing we aren't at such a disadvantage to getting to the playoffs/winning a conference title, and care more about the conference.

P3 setup and an auto or two is a very cheap way for the networks to get 64-68 "top" level schools but only pay 40-48 of them top dollar.

I don't know how sustainable it is, as that type of revenue difference in a pay to play era or NIL era will eventually have its toll, but I think it hurts basketball first, as there is no postseason berth equalizer. All these leftovers already have great access to the NCAA tournament
 

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I don't see USC or UCLA doing anything. Money will be good but they won't be happy. Too long of a travel, too far away for relationships, no rivalries except their travel partner.
 

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Cool stuff. I did a full ancestry.com membership and it's pretty amazing the things you can find out about your lineage. I had a few in the Civil War, also had a 5th great grandfather who was a general in the Revolutionary War.
Had an ancestor who fought in the Danish Army, emigrated to Iowa, fought in the Civil War, was captured and a POW in Springfield MO area. They said after that he was never quite 'right' mentally. I can totally understand that.
 

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In 1860, Iowa had a population of 674,913 men, women and children, living in 124,098 households. Of this number, 116,000 men were eligible for military service.

Iowa sent roughly 73,150 men to fight, 11% of our total population, more per capita than any other state. Over the next four years 13,169, or one out of six, would die in the war.

Per the Iowa Sons of Union Veteran's of the Civil War web site https://www.iowasuvcw.org/

I've moved around a lot, and people usually don't think much of Iowa. When I was in New York I only found one person who could correctly identify the state on a blank US map. We have a lot to be proud of, and this is one of my favorite facts to cite. Probably #3 after the Atanasoff-Berry Computer and our work with the Manhattan project.

It’s one of many reasons people were so embarrassed of an Iowa congressman having confederate flag in his office for 18yrs.

I have to say in California employers assume I have a good work ethic when they know I’m from Iowa or see Iowa Stare on resume. No clue if that’s rational or not, but I’ve heard it several times.
 
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Because the Big 12 is not done expanding to the east. That's why.

We have room. The best P3 number is whatever it takes to get a P3. Due to the limited ways the ACC can break apart, we'd be lucky to get 4 schools that add value. A 24 school Big 12 is workable.

And if FOX makes this Big20 happen, the ACC falling apart in the near term is delayed. ESPN would not have a conference to use for the ACC leftovers when moving schools to SEC, other than the American. ESPN could move 4-8 to SEC, then some to AAC, but those numbers are much worse for ESPN than making ACC base of P3 or adding ACC to the its own version of Big 20

Imo the easiest answer to Wilner is because the thought was Stanford and Cal would rather do anything but join the Big 12, and were waiting on BIG/ND decisions.

But perhaps the thought of backfilling with Boise and a Cal State system school like fresno or SDSU has made them reconsider.

Get those 8, kill the Pac, have a BIG/SEC clause in the GOR. Then hope when ND joins BIG, Stanford and Cal go with, as ND leaving finishes the ACC and we replace those two with 2 more ACC.
 

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It’s one of many reasons people were so embarrassed of an Iowa congressman having confederate flag in his office for 18yrs.

I have to say in California employers assume I have a good work ethic when they know I’m from Iowa or see Iowa Stare on resume. No clue if that’s rational or not, but I’ve heard it several times.
What a dink. Glad he's out.

I've heard some of that from my friends who live on the west coast (Oregon mostly). When I lived on the east coast in NY they seemed to assume I was a backwater hick (I will admit, there is some degree of truth to that). People always knew I was from out of state because I had a funny accent and was very polite. Until I moved to SC, then they found me too gruff. Always makes me chuckle.
 
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It’s one of many reasons people were so embarrassed of an Iowa congressman having confederate flag in his office for 18yrs.

I have to say in California employers assume I have a good work ethic when they know I’m from Iowa or see Iowa Stare on resume. No clue if that’s rational or not, but I’ve heard it several times.
Knew people from Midwest who had a son graduate from AR that couldn't understand why he couldn't get a job up north. Had to settle for Walmart. Not uncommon
 
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