Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[Klubber]

i can count all the stories like this written about the unwanted Big 12 schools, and ISU specifically, over the last decade using the fingers on my ****.

this nat'l narrative that suddenly this realignment is now some horrible thing and there are now victims who matter really pisses me off. it says a lot.

These same writers were basically cheering on the perceived demise of the Big XII during the last realignment rounds.

Pete Fiutak from CFN for one seemed to really take an enormous amount of pleasure in the potential demise of the Big XII and schools like ISU, K-State, et al. being irrelevant. The guy's a total B1G hack. It is endlessly annoying.

 

[ISUTex]

I think that is the primary appeal to the B1G. It was founded by Thomas Jefferson in 1819.

UVA is almost too snobby for the Big 10. On second thought, nah, they'd be perfect.

 

[ISU_Guy]

I don’t think they will have to stick media money into the NIL. Which wouldnt work anyway.

The ADs will just keep big donors in the loop on how much they need to run the athletic dept and the rest of the donations will go to NIL.

Would be no different than me normally giving 100,000 to isu AD. But now I know we have doubled our media money , so I can back that off and put more into the isu NIL.

So maybe I give 50k to isu and 50k to the nil. That is how Rutgers will get better.

 

[sunset]

Pretty sure if Gavin Newsom can vacation in Montana, USC and UCLA will show up to play the poors in the flyover states.

I see that you are not familiar with California politics

 

[cyIclSoneU]

It's funny, if you go on the UVA student enrollment page, they break down their student enrollment as this % Virginian and this % Non-Virginian. They aim to keep it 2/3 Virginian vs. non. Kinda' weird IYAM.

UVA is an elite university and most of their applicants are out-of-state, from all over the country. But it is a public school intended to serve Virginians. So they do the 2/3rds vs. 1/3rd target population. It makes it a good deal easier to get admitted to UVA as an in-state student than as out-of-state. It also is massively more expensive to attend as an out-of-stater (more than 3x the tuition).

 

[drmwevr08]

I'm trying to imagine how enraged I'd be if a web site that covers Texas found an analyst who covers Iowa but happens to live in Ames to comment on how ISU's absolute lowest moment is actually worse than it looks.

I hope everyone involved in that story gets an avalanche of hate mail.

'story'

Basically, OSU sucks and they sure don't need this big stadium...

Glad it's not ISU but its a shame that its anyone.

 

[SolarGarlic]

It’ll be interesting to see them outside of a 20+ Year successful football hire. Of course they’d have more cash to just keep hiring and firing until they like a fit.

Imagine a very plausible scenario in 15 years where Iowa and Minnesota don’t have good coaches, they’re bottom ten for a decade or so in the new 40 team structure, perennial losers because they clearly have among the least natural advantages.

ISU/KSU/KU football are now more like UNI in terms of interest. Nebraska can easily be in sane perennial loser boat as Iowa and Minn.

I fail to see how this does anything but help Vikings and Chiefs growth in the region.

I hate Iowa more than the next guy, but even that is depressing to me. Not them losing, but just a decrease in passion and interest in the game within the state.

 

[MugNight]

UVA is an elite university and most of their applicants are out-of-state, from all over the country. But it is a public school intended to serve Virginians. So they do the 2/3rds vs. 1/3rd target population. It makes it a good deal easier to get admitted to UVA as an in-state student than as out-of-state. It also is massively more expensive to attend as an out-of-stater (more than 3x the tuition).

UNC is like this as well. Crazy competitive to get into as an out of stater. I recently looked up the UNC online MBA… $120k. Compare that to Florida ($60k), Tennessee ($55k), Iowa ($33k), Auburn ($34k).

 

[AlaCyclone]

My rank of combinations among those, if Arizona schools are secured first:
1 Utah/Colorado
2 Washington/Utah
3 Washington/Colorado
4 Washington/Washington State
5 Utah/Washington State
6 Colorado/Washington State

—> I could put UW/UU first, but I feel like UW is most likely to bolt if BiG offer comes later (similar to UO) and UU/CU is more geographically contiguous (I know, “geography doesn’t matter,” but it’s a tie-breaker for those slots).

I'm open to critique of my ranking, for sure. I don't claim to be an expert.

The only thing I woud say is that Oregon State is a better grab than Washington State. Corvallis is actually closer to Portand than Eugene is, and Pullman is in BFW!

 

[12191987]

i can count all the stories like this written about the unwanted Big 12 schools, and ISU specifically, over the last decade using the fingers on my ****.

this nat'l narrative that suddenly this realignment is now some horrible thing and there are now victims who matter really pisses me off. it says a lot.

This was written by a Pac-12 “analyst” and posted on USA Today’s “Trojans Wire” site.

The topic of the fates of the remaining Big 12 teams was certainly covered by “Longhorns Wire” and “Sooners Wire” at the time, albeit with a tone more aligned with their respective sensibilities.

If that coverage seemed callous and condescending it is probably because you’re just some peon fan of an AAC-bound team they’ve been subsidizing for years.

 

[BCClone]

It’ll be interesting to see them outside of a 20+ Year successful football hire. Of course they’d have more cash to just keep hiring and firing until they like a fit.

Imagine a very plausible scenario in 15 years where Iowa and Minnesota don’t have good coaches, they’re bottom ten for a decade or so in the new 40 team structure, perennial losers because they clearly have among the least natural advantages.

ISU/KSU/KU football are now more like UNI in terms of interest. Nebraska can easily be in sane perennial loser boat as Iowa and Minn.

I fail to see how this does anything but help Vikings and Chiefs growth in the region.

Baby Ferentz (Eddie calls him that) is the next coach.

 

[HFCS]

I hate Iowa more than the next guy, but even that is depressing to me. Not them losing, but just a decrease in passion and interest in the game within the state.

I was looking at current attendance for Iowa, ISU, KSU, KU, Neb, Missouri and Minn...which is somewhat of an indicator about streaming viewership. It's the area I grew up around so that's what I know.

Even with KU dragging it way down, KU/KSU/ISU get about 50-45k in the stands between them. If they are demoted down to what becomes MAC interest level that becomes more like 12-20k each. This is the big question...how far does interest drop, does it drop at all? Is non-P2 as irrelevant as the MAC is nationally?

Iowa, Neb and Minn are not set up to be powers in the new power 2 unless they have an ideal coach in place. I don't think their attendance and streaming interest increases either if they are traditional bottom half teams. Iowa has found a way to consistently win in B10W...if divisions go away and 3-4 teams with more advantages get added that becomes harder even if their coaching stays stable, let alone they hire a dud or average coach.

I think Iowa can only go down in terms of competing with this new 38-48 team structure. Right now they're good within it (not great) but they aren't set up to withstand a bad coach or two in a row. Nebraska is already struggling and losing interest for the first time ever, adding more power teams won't help that. The money will give them freedom to hire and fire coaches limitlessly, but that instability can hurt too.

I just look at the whole region and don't see how this really helps anybody but media companies short term and exclusively NFL long term.

 

[HFCS]

I don’t think they will have to stick media money into the NIL. Which wouldnt work anyway.

The ADs will just keep big donors in the loop on how much they need to run the athletic dept and the rest of the donations will go to NIL.

Would be no different than me normally giving 100,000 to isu AD. But now I know we have doubled our media money , so I can back that off and put more into the isu NIL.

So maybe I give 50k to isu and 50k to the nil. That is how Rutgers will get better.

yeah, that makes a lot of sense

I still think perennial losers will develop, especially in the mix of B10 schools we have now.

SEC I could see as more of league where it's a little more wide open with more cash pumping in, at least in terms of finishing top half and not being bottom 5 every season. Very few of the SEC schools are away from recruiting hotbeds.

Some of these teams have sucked making way more in media rights already than schools in other conferences who are way better than them. Indiana was pretty close to going 1-11 last year making a ****load more in media rights than quite a few ranked teams.

That's the most fascinating thing to me, if these teams are still allowed to play each other non-conf. OK St and Baylor are basically the best programs that have gotten and equivocal "no thanks" permanently. Will they still be able to line up agains the bottom half of the Big Ten and blow the doors off them? Will any good players on those teams run to play for last place Big Ten and SEC team?

 

[Cyforce]

The only thing I woud say is that Oregon State is a better grab than Washington State. Corvallis is actually closer to Portand than Eugene is, and Pullman is in BFW!

Washington state's viewership dwarfs OSU.

 

[Trice]

Colorado Board of Regents meeting previously scheduled for right now...is cancelled.

CANCELED - Special Board Meeting (Executive Session Only)

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[alarson]

Washington state's viewership dwarfs OSU.

I'd imagine that's only because they recently had Leach.

 

[Gunnerclone]

We just learned in the premium forum you can say buttfuck on here.

The premium forum is so far behind. That’s why I don’t sign up.

 

[kcbob79clone]

 

[CysRage]

Colorado Board of Regents meeting previously scheduled for right now...is cancelled.

CANCELED - Special Board Meeting (Executive Session Only)

regents.cu.edu

I’m sure this is because the corner schools were convinced to wait for Pac media revenue estimates before bolting to the Big 12.

 

[kcbob79clone]

I'd give OreSt and WashSt a lifeline and get to 20