Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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Possible but I think a conference slate like that would be an anomaly, and even if it did happen, the schedule the following season (and probably the next couple) would be brutal.

2024 will be the easiest and closest to your example, except we have Washington instead of Purdue.

2025 we have Oregon, Penn St., and @USC.
2026 we have Ohio St., Michigan, and @Wash.
2027 we have Michigan, USC, UCLA, and @Oregon.
2028 we have @Penn St. and @USC.

I also think Ruhle and Fickell could do good things at Nebby and Wisco, so I'm not looking at them as pushovers moving ahead either.
Washington is going to be absolutely awful this year, so is UCLA. Washington has one starter returning and a new coach correct?
 

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Personally, I wish the Big 12 would invite Oregon St and Washington St, and any of the remaining ACC teams that are left with no home after their conference is broken apart.

At this point why not have the Big 12 (rename the conference at that point) represent the collective of the "have nots".

I would rather play in a conference of like minded schools, than try and be one of the cool conferences.
 

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Possible but I think a conference slate like that would be an anomaly, and even if it did happen, the schedule the following season (and probably the next couple) would be brutal.

2024 will be the easiest and closest to your example, except we have Washington instead of Purdue.

2025 we have Oregon, Penn St., and @USC.
2026 we have Ohio St., Michigan, and @Wash.
2027 we have Michigan, USC, UCLA, and @Oregon.
2028 we have @Penn St. and @USC.

I also think Ruhle and Fickell could do good things at Nebby and Wisco, so I'm not looking at them as pushovers moving ahead either.
You guys have a horse shoe up your ass as a program. On so many levels. And this will continue to be one of them.
 
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I hope that both sides of the equation matter. Time zone where the game is played matters for the players and home team fans. Would also hope the TV folks heavily consider game time for away team fans. On the surface playing an 11pm ET kickoff for many Rutgers fans doesn't seem in their best interest.

But who knows. Things get started later on the east coast, so maybe its a good time for the Friday night drinking crowd (18-35 yo) demographic. The game will be shown on FOX OTA, so could be FOX feels they will get a lot of football fans to stick around and watch after the early MLB World Series game. So we'll see how ratings end up.
Rutgers got absolutely screwed with that absurd game time. Petitti looks like a fool (and Fox puppet) for allowing Fox/USC to schedule that game at that time. That time is bad for fans not on the West Coast and even more so for players and staff who presumably will fly home after the game on a cross country flight.
 

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You guys have a horse shoe up your ass as a program. On so many levels. And this will continue to be one of them.
Even with 2024, and especially beyond, the conference schedule gets much tougher and ISU's gets much easier. So on that front the tables have turned which should be good for ISU.
 

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I think it'd be halirious if Utah leaves the Big 12 for the ACC, only for UNC, Clemson, and FSU to leave, thus crumbling the ACC. Only for the Big 12 to invite ACC teams except Utah; relegating them back to G5.

I think they’d invite Utah back. But at 1/2 payout after taking the buyout money from them to leave in the first place. Cause in the end, they’re still good for the TV package.
 
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2speedy1

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I legitimately don't understand why fans of non blue blood schools want to be in the SEC or Big 10.

I understand why admins want to be there, but not fans.

If we got the Big 10 invite tomorrow, we'd obviously take it, but I would not be excited as a fan. Our absolutely ceiling would be between 6-8 wins and we'd never have any shot at the playoffs. Iowa and Nebraska would be the only schools we'd have any history with on our schedule and we already play Iowa annually as it is.

The current Big 12 is going to provide a school like us (and all of our peers) far more entertainment than being a member of one of those leagues would.
I always said the B10 west would be a lot of fun for us, with the furthest away game being closer than our closest in the B12. (I believe Purdue is just slightly further than Kansas, although possibly would have moved to the East if we were added) The rest are all closer than KU.

But now that is all out the window with massive conferences and no more B10 west.

That being said if we were all together still with the old Big 8 teams.....that is really still preferable. Regional rivalries with Mizzou and Nebby were great along with KU and KSU, but the regionality of the B1G west would have been pretty nice too.
 

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I always said the B10 west would be a lot of fun for us, with the furthest away game being closer than our closest in the B12. (I believe Purdue is just slightly further than Kansas, although possibly would have moved to the East if we were added) The rest are all closer than KU.

But now that is all out the window with massive conferences and no more B10 west.

That being said if we were all together still with the old Big 8 teams.....that is really still preferable. Regional rivalries with Mizzou and Nebby were great along with KU and KSU, but the regionality of the B1G west would have been pretty nice too.
The Big 10 West is a different story. But that’s not coming back. I would have given my arm to be in that division.
 
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Possible but I think a conference slate like that would be an anomaly, and even if it did happen, the schedule the following season (and probably the next couple) would be brutal.

2024 will be the easiest and closest to your example, except we have Washington instead of Purdue.

2025 we have Oregon, Penn St., and @USC.
2026 we have Ohio St., Michigan, and @Wash.
2027 we have Michigan, USC, UCLA, and @Oregon.
2028 we have @Penn St. and @USC.

I also think Ruhle and Fickell could do good things at Nebby and Wisco, so I'm not looking at them as pushovers moving ahead either.
I still dont think the uneven protected rivalries is fair, same with the B12. Everyone should have the same number of protected rivals. So if that number is 1, then its 1 for everyone, if it is 3 then it is 3 for everyone.

The fact that Iowa gets 3 and is more than everyone else is dumb. Same where some in the B12 have them and others not is also dumb. All should be even.
 

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The non-brand ACC fans are coming out of the woodwork with the Utah rumor. They see poaching Utah, rest of the 4 corners, WVU, UCF, and then others. "Kill the Big 12" was a common theme. Funny how they ignore that adding teams aren't getting the revenue boost these days from the media partners.

So much for working with us against the Big 10 and SEC.
 

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I still dont think the uneven protected rivalries is fair, same with the B12. Everyone should have the same number of protected rivals. So if that number is 1, then its 1 for everyone, if it is 3 then it is 3 for everyone.

The fact that Iowa gets 3 and is more than everyone else is dumb. Same where some in the B12 have them and others not is also dumb. All should be even.
I don't disagree in principle, but that's a lot easier said than done. If you say 1 is the magic number, what does Michigan do with tOSU and MSU? Force them to choose? If you say 2 is the magic number, what do you do with Rutgers, who barely can come up with 1 logical protected rival in Maryland? Or Penn St., who opted for 0 protected rivalries to avoid having to play tOSU every season? The spirit of the policy allowing each school to identify their rivals and if the feelings were mutual, establishing those rivalries I think was good. It just sucks that some schools used it in a way that doesn't align with that spirit, like Iowa having 3 (which is stupid and a way for Barta and KF to pad the schedule) and PSU having 0 when a PSU v. tOSU protected rivalry seemed obvious to everyone.
 
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The non-brand ACC fans are coming out of the woodwork with the Utah rumor. They see poaching Utah, rest of the 4 corners, WVU, UCF, and then others. "Kill the Big 12" was a common theme. Funny how they ignore that adding teams aren't getting the revenue boost these days from the media partners.

So much for working with us against the Big 10 and SEC.
Give them UCF and UH by waiving B12 exit/GOR fees and add back ORSt and Wazzu.
 

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This should put an end to that. Got a few clicks for small or declining journalists/media outlets though



They are arrogant enough to have entertained it and then be back begging to be let in within few years.

I wouldn't doubt there was some actual smoke, but only because of their arrogance, not that it's anywhere near a rational move for anybody to leave the Big 12 for the ACC right now.
 

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I don't disagree in principle, but that's a lot easier said than done. If you say 1 is the magic number, what does Michigan do with tOSU and MSU? Force them to choose? If you say 2 is the magic number, what do you do with Rutgers, who barely can come up with 1 logical protected rival in Maryland? Or Penn St., who opted for 0 protected rivalries to avoid having to play tOSU every season? The spirit of the policy allowing each school to identify their rivals and if the feelings were mutual, establishing those rivalries I think was good. It just sucks that some schools used it in a way that doesn't align with that spirit, like Iowa having 3 (which is stupid and a way for Barta and KF to pad the schedule) and PSU having 0 when a PSU v. tOSU protected rivalry seemed obvious to everyone.

0, 1 or 2 results in some gut wrenching choices.

ISU has 0. We'll live.

Where it becomes absurd is teams pretending to have 3 to 5 rivals in one conference. Well that's called being in any historic conference.

They should cap it at two and Iowa's choice would be no big deal at all. Whomever they drop would have similar or less history to ISU and KSU not being protected.
 
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