Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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One point that I haven’t heard much about is the home games in the first round. Will the SEC demand that cold weather teams not be allowed to host a game outdoors? The top 4 spots will play in bowl games, but spots 5-8 will host a game in December. I’d imagine if there are SEC or even ACC schools in that 9-12 spots, they won’t look positively on a trip to Provo in the second week of December.
 
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As I’ve mentioned before, I do think we’re headed towards a Super League within 10 years, and this is the thought process on why.

I believe there’s ways to prevent it, but the idea that “brands will not want to lose that much” or “they’ll alienate too many viewers” aren’t two of the ways.

The brands don’t make decisions based on the thought process that they don’t want to be the punching bags of the league. Because none of them believe they’ll be the punching bags.

The networks/schools won’t make decisions based on the idea they’ll alienate too many fans and it’s not sustainable. If the networks/schools can make more money/increase profitability in the short-term, that’s what they’ll care about and how they’ll make their strategic decision.

The ways to prevent a Super League is to make it more financially viable for the powers that be to keep the conference setup as is, rather than create a Premier League.

The inflection points will be the CFP deal for 2026 and beyond as well as 2031ish when the Big 10 and Big 12 deals come up for negotiation again.

I’m definitely more concerned now after hearing Marchand and Ourand do not believe the CFP deal will be as big as some are forecasting. That’s not good news for us.
They are the experts so could very well be right. But I wonder if their comments are based on the current media marketplace.

But most likely the CFP proposals won't go out to bid for a couple years. Hopefully the media market recession is in the rear view mirror. Also, it will be interesting on how many media entities bid on the playoff. If it's just ESPN & FOX, then it might go for less than some project. But what if NBC and CBS are serious bidders? CBS has to know the value of NCAA Hoops has on their March viewership.

Then there are companies like Apple or Amazon. Would bidding on 11 games over a 40 day window be of interest to subscription based platforms? Based on potential advertising rates, would they allow free access to their platforms to watch games and maybe throw in some freebies (aka Season 1 Ted Lasso, The Boys, etc.).
 

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One point that I haven’t heard much about is the home games in the first round. Will the SEC demand that cold weather teams not be allowed to host a game outdoors? The top 4 spots will play in bowl games, but spots 5-8 will host a game in December. I’d imagine if there are SEC or even ACC schools in that 9-12 spots, they won’t look positively on a trip to Provo in the second week of December.

I don't see how the SEC could make that demand. Football is an outdoor sport and weather is part of the game. But could there be a push to host round 1 games at preset locations vs. on campus? If there is more money to be made hosting games at US Bank, Lucas Oil, SoFi, etc. stadiums- greed probably wins out over fan access.
 
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Glad we have solid leadership for this. Can’t imagine Yormark getting out maneuvered in this.

There's a rational argument to move the 6 highest rated conf champs to 5 now...but beyond that it's an insane change. The Pac no longer exists and the other conferences are all at least as strong or stronger for it. There's no way you can knock that below 5.

5 effectively guarantees a G5 spot the same way 6 used to.

6 effectively guarantees two G5s. I have no issue with 2/12 being G5 but I get why Big Ten and SEC would oppose it with all their will.
 
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I don't see how the SEC could make that demand. Football is an outdoor sport and weather is part of the game. But could there we a push to host round 1 games at preset locations vs. on campus? If there is more money to be made hosting games at US Bank, Lucas Oil, SoFi, etc. stadiums- greed probably wins out over fan access.

I guess we'll see if there's any advantage when greatest team of all time 2023 Texas finally has to play a November game in Ames vs consensus last place pick ISU.
 
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One point that I haven’t heard much about is the home games in the first round. Will the SEC demand that cold weather teams not be allowed to host a game outdoors? The top 4 spots will play in bowl games, but spots 5-8 will host a game in December. I’d imagine if there are SEC or even ACC schools in that 9-12 spots, they won’t look positively on a trip to Provo in the second week of December.
Give me 9 seed Florida coming to 8 seed ISU in Ames in November
 

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Give me 9 seed Florida coming to 8 seed ISU in Ames in November

No way this ever happens. I expect to see some BS going on for that 8/9 spot. No way the bigger name team gets denied a home game in the 8/9 game. I wouldn’t be surprised if someone from ESPN even brings up stadium size when determining the seeds next year.
 
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There's a rational argument to move the 6 highest rated conf champs to 5 now...but beyond that it's an insane change. The Pac no longer exists and the other conferences are all at least as strong or stronger for it. There's no way you can knock that below 5.

5 effectively guarantees a G5 spot the same way 6 used to.

6 effectively guarantees two G5s. I have no issue with 2/12 being G5 but I get why Big Ten and SEC would oppose it with all their will.
I wouldn't have an issue with a 5/7 criteria as long as auto berth teams be ranked in top 15. It probably only applies to G5 schools. But if a Conference Champ is ranked #17, I don't feel they should be in playoff.
 

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There's a rational argument to move the 6 highest rated conf champs to 5 now...but beyond that it's an insane change. The Pac no longer exists and the other conferences are all at least as strong or stronger for it. There's no way you can knock that below 5.

5 effectively guarantees a G5 spot the same way 6 used to.

6 effectively guarantees two G5s. I have no issue with 2/12 being G5 but I get why Big Ten and SEC would oppose it with all their will.
I don’t think there is going to be any autobid for a G5 or if there is there will be a ton of qualifiers
 

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I don’t think there is going to be any autobid for a G5 or if there is there will be a ton of qualifiers

There was effectively one G5 auto bid in original 12 team format. Now w Pac dead there are effectively two.

Since the MWC is going to be stronger, why would you move G5 from 1 to 0 unless Big Ten is just flaunting their money god of fb status?

Keep it at the same one if you want long term health and avoiding legal action.
 

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I wouldn't have an issue with a 5/7 criteria as long as auto berth teams be ranked in top 15. It probably only applies to G5 schools. But if a Conference Champ is ranked #17, I don't feel they should be in playoff.

I’d agree with you more if we could incorporate some computer data into ranking. The teams don’t play each other enough and safer to allow a path to play in.
 

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The comparison is Dish vs the total cost of streaming. No internet, no streaming.
Most people have internet, even if they have cable or satellite. So to include internet in the cost of streaming is misplaced. For most people internet isn't an incremental cost of streaming.
 

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Most people have internet, even if they have cable or satellite. So to include internet in the cost of streaming is misplaced. For most people internet isn't an incremental cost of streaming.

Not having internet is like not having a phone or a mailbox before 2000.
 
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Who doesn’t have internet though? False comparison to attribute 100% of the internet cost to streaming when you’d have internet anyways.
And you don't need internet for streaming. You can have YTTV or other streaming services and just use through your smart phone on a data plan.
 

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There was effectively one G5 auto bid in original 12 team format. Now w Pac dead there are effectively two.

Since the MWC is going to be stronger, why would you move G5 from 1 to 0 unless Big Ten is just flaunting their money god of fb status?

Keep it at the same one if you want long term health and avoiding legal action.
Because at the time of the initial deal they just wanted to get the playoff expanded. The dynamics have changed dramatically since then and the P2 never wanted the G5 autobid in the first place. Now that the power is consolidated zero chance they want to give a G5 school the opportunity with all the additional mouths to feed.

Cutting out the G5 does nothing to increase long term health as almost no one cares about the G5 teams. You guys already promoted the 4 best and frankly no G5 school has the talent to win a playoff game. Also what legal action? No one cares about the G5 schools, most are just trying everything possible to keep the doors open not trying to compete in football.
 

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Because at the time of the initial deal they just wanted to get the playoff expanded. The dynamics have changed dramatically since then and the P2 never wanted the G5 autobid in the first place. Now that the power is consolidated zero chance they want to give a G5 school the opportunity with all the additional mouths to feed.

Cutting out the G5 does nothing to increase long term health as almost no one cares about the G5 teams. You guys already promoted the 4 best and frankly no G5 school has the talent to win a playoff game. Also what legal action? No one cares about the G5 schools, most are just trying everything possible to keep the doors open not trying to compete in football.
I’m not sure what will happen with the G5 autobid (IF they go the autobid route) but I do think there will be a media push to include a G5 autobid. Will that be enough to sway the networks/P2, I’m not sure.

Those teams are capable of winning playoff games too. Tulane beat Caleb Williams and USC last year, UCF beat LSU, TCU beat Wisconsin in a Rose Bowl, Boise State beat Oklahoma
 

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