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All this talk of how mature and classy this kid is was absolutely crushed today.

Before I continue...let me make one thing clear. I have absolutely no problem with him attending UNC. It's a great school with a great basketball tradition and a legitimate NC contender. It's a logical choice that many of us (admit it or not) would make.

However, the selfish, arrogant 17 year old in this kid really came through today. Welcome back to mortality, Harrison.

I've never seen anyone use an entire coach, program, University, and city to advance his own agenda than this kid has. Then to put on the spectacle he did was absolutely outrageous. You're going to invite the city of Ames and the ISU community, then skype Roy Williams? Seriously. He f**king skyped Roy Williams.

The thank you's to the other coaches and the whole speach was the most contrived and fabricated speech I've ever heard from a high schooler. He should have been focusing on a school with a good public policy program instead of a business school. Seasoned politicians can't spin a story that well in public. The special thanks to McD and Iowa State was a joke. I knew it the minute he said he'd always be a Cyclone Fan. Game Over. Thanks for the consolation prize, Harrison.

You know what's mature? Tell someone that you aren't considering that they're not in the running. Don't use their practice facilities and team to make yourself better. You know what's classy? Hold a private press conference without the public there to annouce your intention to attend another University. Be humble and don't put on a f**king Disney production at your press conference to attend an out-of-state school.

The kid can talk about grades, and saxophones, and choir, and god all he wants. He can be as well behaved and well spoken as he wants. At the end of the day, he's still a pompous teenager who loves the spotlight. Kids do that and it's fine. It's natural. However, the coverup is worse than the crime. The act is over. You are too smart not to know exactly what you were doing all along. Your actions as of late and your show today is twisted and sadistic. No one is buying it anymore, Harrison.

There is no way ISU was in the running until today. I will never beleive it.


THANKS ! Couldn't have said it better ! VERY WELL PUT!
How about high-speed feed next time you wanna Skype - Horrible production... and looks foolish with the ear piece hanging out. GO BLUE DEVILS !:biglaugh:
 

ericlambi

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how much flack will he get in school now?????

None. I went to AHS and don't remember too many cyclone zealouts. I think these kids' personal relationship with Harrison will be much stronger than their cyclone ties. It's the people who don't have a personal relationship, like the people on this board, who are bound to feel upset about this whole thing.

Kid had me fooled . . . I live half way across the country and was telling people at work today that Harrison Barnes was going to commit to ISU. Seemed like the obvious conclusion the way he made the announcement. The whole inviting the public of Ames thing, and then the rumour that he gave a personal invitation to Geoffrey (maybe that was even true, which would be sick if it were). I feel like a schmuck.
 

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isunorth said:
All this talk of how mature and classy this kid is was absolutely crushed today.

Before I continue...let me make one thing clear. I have absolutely no problem with him attending UNC. It's a great school with a great basketball tradition and a legitimate NC contender. It's a logical choice that many of us (admit it or not) would make.

However, the selfish, arrogant 17 year old in this kid really came through today. Welcome back to mortality, Harrison.

I've never seen anyone use an entire coach, program, University, and city to advance his own agenda than this kid has. Then to put on the spectacle he did was absolutely outrageous. You're going to invite the city of Ames and the ISU community, then skype Roy Williams? Seriously. He f**king skyped Roy Williams.

The thank you's to the other coaches and the whole speach was the most contrived and fabricated speech I've ever heard from a high schooler. He should have been focusing on a school with a good public policy program instead of a business school. Seasoned politicians can't spin a story that well in public. The special thanks to McD and Iowa State was a joke. I knew it the minute he said he'd always be a Cyclone Fan. Game Over. Thanks for the consolation prize, Harrison.

You know what's mature? Tell someone that you aren't considering that they're not in the running. Don't use their practice facilities and team to make yourself better. You know what's classy? Hold a private press conference without the public there to annouce your intention to attend another University. Be humble and don't put on a f**king Disney production at your press conference to attend an out-of-state school.

The kid can talk about grades, and saxophones, and choir, and god all he wants. He can be as well behaved and well spoken as he wants. At the end of the day, he's still a pompous teenager who loves the spotlight. Kids do that and it's fine. It's natural. However, the coverup is worse than the crime. The act is over. You are too smart not to know exactly what you were doing all along. Your actions as of late and your show today is twisted and sadistic. No one is buying it anymore, Harrison.

There is no way ISU was in the running until today. I will never beleive it.
Mr. isunorth, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
 

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All this talk of how mature and classy this kid is was absolutely crushed today.

Before I continue...let me make one thing clear. I have absolutely no problem with him attending UNC. It's a great school with a great basketball tradition and a legitimate NC contender. It's a logical choice that many of us (admit it or not) would make.

However, the selfish, arrogant 17 year old in this kid really came through today. Welcome back to mortality, Harrison.

I've never seen anyone use an entire coach, program, University, and city to advance his own agenda than this kid has. Then to put on the spectacle he did was absolutely outrageous. You're going to invite the city of Ames and the ISU community, then skype Roy Williams? Seriously. He f**king skyped Roy Williams.

The thank you's to the other coaches and the whole speach was the most contrived and fabricated speech I've ever heard from a high schooler. He should have been focusing on a school with a good public policy program instead of a business school. Seasoned politicians can't spin a story that well in public. The special thanks to McD and Iowa State was a joke. I knew it the minute he said he'd always be a Cyclone Fan. Game Over. Thanks for the consolation prize, Harrison.

You know what's mature? Tell someone that you aren't considering that they're not in the running. Don't use their practice facilities and team to make yourself better. You know what's classy? Hold a private press conference without the public there to annouce your intention to attend another University. Be humble and don't put on a f**king Disney production at your press conference to attend an out-of-state school.

The kid can talk about grades, and saxophones, and choir, and god all he wants. He can be as well behaved and well spoken as he wants. At the end of the day, he's still a pompous teenager who loves the spotlight. Kids do that and it's fine. It's natural. However, the coverup is worse than the crime. The act is over. You are too smart not to know exactly what you were doing all along. Your actions as of late and your show today is twisted and sadistic. No one is buying it anymore, Harrison.

There is no way ISU was in the running until today. I will never beleive it.

Best post in a long time... exactly my thoughts!
 

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It's dissappointing about Barnes' decision, and kind of a head-scratcher on how this was handled. I do think his choice was one a lot of people would make, reality being what it is comparing NC against ISU.

I've heard tons of people talk about his maturity and level-headedness, enough that I still give him the benefit of the doubt there. Now that the circus is over, this is his chance to show whether he really does "get it" or not. If he acts like he's shocked that he's no longer treated like the best thing since sliced bread around these parts, then that will be very revealing. He may always be a Cyclone fan, but hearing this just reminds me of a cute girl that tells you "No, but let's still be friends", when any guy with a brain knows it basically means "You're not quite good enough, but I don't want you mad at me". If he acts like he understands the let down he gave Cyclone Nation and takes a little of our grumpiness with class, then he still has my respect.
 

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It's dissappointing about Barnes' decision, and kind of a head-scratcher on how this was handled. I do think his choice was one a lot of people would make, reality being what it is comparing NC against ISU.

I've heard tons of people talk about his maturity and level-headedness, enough that I still give him the benefit of the doubt there. Now that the circus is over, this is his chance to show whether he really does "get it" or not. If he acts like he's shocked that he's no longer treated like the best thing since sliced bread around these parts, then that will be very revealing. He may always be a Cyclone fan, but hearing this just reminds me of a cute girl that tells you "No, but let's still be friends", when any guy with a brain knows it basically means "You're not quite good enough, but I don't want you mad at me". If he acts like he understands the let down he gave Cyclone Nation and takes a little of our grumpiness with class, then he still has my respect.

Well put.
 

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Watch it....you might make vanillathrilla's dog poop list. I agree though, may the fleas of a thousand camels infest the armpits of anyone considering playing for tarheels. Not that I can think of anyone right now.....:cool:

I know right, because why in the world would anyone ever want to play for them?
 

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Have you read The Jordan Rules? A good bit of what most of us would call "pomposity" is at the core of what made Michael Jordan great.

Mostly what he did today was make sure that he got on the NBA radar. I could easily see MJ doing the same thing. These guys are shrewd managers of their own identities. It is hard to be great and humble.

I was there today and felt the pain. However, it was pain because of what I wanted for ISU, not because of what I thought was best for HB.
 

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Here is what it comes down to:

On his visit to UNC he gets to meet Michael Jordan. Here, maybe we can get Marcus Fizer on a red-eye back from Turkey to say hi.

On his visit to UNC he got to play pick up ball with NBA pros. Here, we could see if Julius Mikalec could take a few days off from pushing cars, or see if perhaps if Curtis Stinson could take a day off from his Iowa Energy try-outs.

On his visit to UNC, they should him their trophy case full of national champsionship trophies. At Iowa State we could show off a Big 12 title or two.

On his visit to UNC he got to sit down and talk with one of the most successful coaches in college basketball. At Iowa State, he got to sit down and talk to his buddies dad that he has known for four years already.

It hurts me as much as all of you, but I suppose all you can do is try to put yourself in the shoes of an 17 year old kid. These are all very powerful forces, and I guess I can't hardly blame him for his decision.
I don't think anyones really blaming him for his decision, just the way he went about making it.
 

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No one made you go or listen to it. Can't handle the decision? The problem lies with you...

Sorry I havent responded to my OP but I havent let it bother me I've been at dinner. So I see it like this for all of you that say "dont get made he didnt make you come" If we were in chaple hill and our hometown kid was making this type of announcment and near the end told us all to come (whitch they did) only to tell us he's going else where wouldnt we feel played? Pull the happy blanket off your eyes. I want people that want ISU no matter who it is period!
 

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All this talk of how mature and classy this kid is was absolutely crushed today.

Before I continue...let me make one thing clear. I have absolutely no problem with him attending UNC. It's a great school with a great basketball tradition and a legitimate NC contender. It's a logical choice that many of us (admit it or not) would make.

However, the selfish, arrogant 17 year old in this kid really came through today. Welcome back to mortality, Harrison.

I've never seen anyone use an entire coach, program, University, and city to advance his own agenda than this kid has. Then to put on the spectacle he did was absolutely outrageous. You're going to invite the city of Ames and the ISU community, then skype Roy Williams? Seriously. He f**king skyped Roy Williams.

The thank you's to the other coaches and the whole speach was the most contrived and fabricated speech I've ever heard from a high schooler. He should have been focusing on a school with a good public policy program instead of a business school. Seasoned politicians can't spin a story that well in public. The special thanks to McD and Iowa State was a joke. I knew it the minute he said he'd always be a Cyclone Fan. Game Over. Thanks for the consolation prize, Harrison.

You know what's mature? Tell someone that you aren't considering that they're not in the running. Don't use their practice facilities and team to make yourself better. You know what's classy? Hold a private press conference without the public there to annouce your intention to attend another University. Be humble and don't put on a f**king Disney production at your press conference to attend an out-of-state school.

The kid can talk about grades, and saxophones, and choir, and god all he wants. He can be as well behaved and well spoken as he wants. At the end of the day, he's still a pompous teenager who loves the spotlight. Kids do that and it's fine. It's natural. However, the coverup is worse than the crime. The act is over. You are too smart not to know exactly what you were doing all along. Your actions as of late and your show today is twisted and sadistic. No one is buying it anymore, Harrison.

There is no way ISU was in the running until today. I will never beleive it.


I'll go ahead and agree with the rest. Good post. I've been saying all day the "HB is the greatest kid in the world" shtick is over. To be honest, I was pretty stupid when I was 17 so I may very well have done this as well...but how his mom or dad would allow that kind of spectacle to go on is shameful.
 

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Listen to what some of you are saying to a 17 year old kid, seriously. Wow some of you need to grow up, whine and cry all you want do you really think Harrison gives two *****? He made his decision that is best for him and his family respect that. One player does not make one team don't get me wrong it would have been sweet, but the cards did not fall our way. Iowa State will be just fine our recruiting will go on and be successful because we have good players now and a good coaching staff. I am a Cyclone fan who wishes Harrison the best not because I am to nice, but because I respect what he help bring to Ames High a State champioship and not show boating like most teenagers would do in his position he earned it and did it in a respectable way so hats off to him for being mature about everything that came at him. Go Cyclones!!!
 

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I'll go ahead and agree with the rest. Good post. I've been saying all day the "HB is the greatest kid in the world" shtick is over. To be honest, I was pretty stupid when I was 17 so I may very well have done this as well...but how his mom or dad would allow that kind of spectacle to go on is shameful.

Don't know who he got the bad advice from, but making such a big deal about this in Ames really was in poor taste if not choosing the home team. If ISU is out, fine, eliminate them, but don't string them along just to get a bigger audience for ESPN. Whether it was intentional or not, that is how it looks and is being received by the ISU fanbase.

I think a lot of people who may have actually cheered for HB and followed his career with interest were very turned off by how today's events unfolded, and the choice HB made in colleges is only a small part of that.

Is it true Coach McD was there in person?
 

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Listen to what some of you are saying to a 17 year old kid, seriously. Wow some of you need to grow up, whine and cry all you want do you really think Harrison gives two *****? He made his decision that is best for him and his family respect that. One player does not make one team don't get me wrong it would have been sweet, but the cards did not fall our way. Iowa State will be just fine our recruiting will go on and be successful because we have good players now and a good coaching staff. I am a Cyclone fan who wishes Harrison the best not because I am to nice, but because I respect what he help bring to Ames High a State champioship and not show boating like most teenagers would do in his position he earned it and did it in a respectable way so hats off to him for being mature about everything that came at him. Go Cyclones!!!

Ummm....I think that is precisely the problem. A lot of people, right or wrong, thought that Barnes did give two "*****" about Iowa State University. And, right or wrong, a lot of people don't believe his behavior and the big show today demonstrated that in any way, shape or form.
 

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This experience was for Ames H.S., the school that Harrison is obviously a huge part of. This whole dog and pony show wasn't for Iowa State fans, it was for Ames High and their community. They are very proud of the opportunities one of their own has and they should be. It sucks that this played out close to Iowa States home, but you cannot blame Harrison and Ames High for taking the opportunity and enjoying the moment.
Wrong, the HB camp invite the community, they had to know that is ISU. Dont be a fool and look the other way.
 

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All this talk of how mature and classy this kid is was absolutely crushed today.

Before I continue...let me make one thing clear. I have absolutely no problem with him attending UNC. It's a great school with a great basketball tradition and a legitimate NC contender. It's a logical choice that many of us (admit it or not) would make.

However, the selfish, arrogant 17 year old in this kid really came through today. Welcome back to mortality, Harrison.

I've never seen anyone use an entire coach, program, University, and city to advance his own agenda than this kid has. Then to put on the spectacle he did was absolutely outrageous. You're going to invite the city of Ames and the ISU community, then skype Roy Williams? Seriously. He f**king skyped Roy Williams.

The thank you's to the other coaches and the whole speach was the most contrived and fabricated speech I've ever heard from a high schooler. He should have been focusing on a school with a good public policy program instead of a business school. Seasoned politicians can't spin a story that well in public. The special thanks to McD and Iowa State was a joke. I knew it the minute he said he'd always be a Cyclone Fan. Game Over. Thanks for the consolation prize, Harrison.

You know what's mature? Tell someone that you aren't considering that they're not in the running. Don't use their practice facilities and team to make yourself better. You know what's classy? Hold a private press conference without the public there to annouce your intention to attend another University. Be humble and don't put on a f**king Disney production at your press conference to attend an out-of-state school.

The kid can talk about grades, and saxophones, and choir, and god all he wants. He can be as well behaved and well spoken as he wants. At the end of the day, he's still a pompous teenager who loves the spotlight. Kids do that and it's fine. It's natural. However, the coverup is worse than the crime. The act is over. You are too smart not to know exactly what you were doing all along. Your actions as of late and your show today is twisted and sadistic. No one is buying it anymore, Harrison.

There is no way ISU was in the running until today. I will never beleive it.


I thought I would quote this again in hope of drowning out Harrison's 3TrueFans. He will be no different than the other iowa preps who turned down a chance to play for Iowa State. None of them will ever be Cyclones.
 
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