Prohm got pissed

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I was sitting 3 rows behind our bench Saturday vs ttech and every time morrietti made an open 3 prohm lost his mind. He would turn to the bench and scream don't ever leave him. Someone left him for a split second to help in the post and morrietti hit his 3rd or 4th 3 pointer prohm turned and screamed at the bench DON'T EVER LEAVE HIM FOR ANY REASON! I thought he was gonna pass out he was so pissed.

Ha :). I noticed that prohm was often yelling at the bench on Saturday which is unusual. I wondered what it was about. IT has to be frustrating to tell your guys to do something and then not have them do it.
 

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I'm still trying to figure out who Prohm is as a coach. For his first two years he basically just kept CFH's sysstem in place because those were the players he had.

Last year, he didn't have anywhere near a full roster so it was hard to tell what he wanted to do.

This year, the team looks talented but without an identity. They certainly aren't an elite defensive team. They really only click on offense when two or more players get hot on a particular day.

Listening to the latest CF podcast they pointed out that the team rarely runs offense. The offense is predicated on individuals being able to score.

So I'm confused about what Prohm's system is. Does he not intend to run an offense? Is he trying to implement a system and the players aren't buying in.

It would be nice to know what he wants the image of the team to be.
That's really interesting, because I've said several times during games (to no one in particular) that I feel like I'm watching a reasonably disciplined pick-up team on offense. That can work, but you need high bball IQ at every position, and ideally a lot of experience playing together. We have neither. So we live and die by our outside shooting (on offense at least.)
 

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I'm still trying to figure out who Prohm is as a coach. For his first two years he basically just kept CFH's sysstem in place because those were the players he had.

Last year, he didn't have anywhere near a full roster so it was hard to tell what he wanted to do.

This year, the team looks talented but without an identity. They certainly aren't an elite defensive team. They really only click on offense when two or more players get hot on a particular day.

Listening to the latest CF podcast they pointed out that the team rarely runs offense. The offense is predicated on individuals being able to score.

So I'm confused about what Prohm's system is. Does he not intend to run an offense? Is he trying to implement a system and the players aren't buying in.

It would be nice to know what he wants the image of the team to be.

He has no system. He has no identity. He has no plan other than to hope that THT, LW & MS shoot 17/24 from 3. Otherwise, it's over Johnny. It's over.
 

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I'm still trying to figure out who Prohm is as a coach. For his first two years he basically just kept CFH's sysstem in place because those were the players he had.

Last year, he didn't have anywhere near a full roster so it was hard to tell what he wanted to do.

This year, the team looks talented but without an identity. They certainly aren't an elite defensive team. They really only click on offense when two or more players get hot on a particular day.

Listening to the latest CF podcast they pointed out that the team rarely runs offense. The offense is predicated on individuals being able to score.

So I'm confused about what Prohm's system is. Does he not intend to run an offense? Is he trying to implement a system and the players aren't buying in.

It would be nice to know what he wants the image of the team to be.

Actually I thought he did a decent job of having CFH's players play a bit of defense and be more reliable late in close games.

2nd season he struggled to get much going without any real threat down low and things got better when SY got more time. SY had that hand injury that set him back, but I still then thought he should have been getting more time in games to learn by doing, even if it meant mistakes since there were holes anyway.

I would agree that there's not a true identity and even with a bit of talent this year I'm not sure what consistently ISU does well on the whole.
 
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Hey maybe this guy did us a big favor and got a little fire out of our coach and team. (Still a jerk though)


That is exactly what I was thinking too. The last three games everyone seem more focused, more determined and more supportive that you have been most of the year.
 

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Hey maybe this guy did us a big favor and got a little fire out of our coach and team. (Still a jerk though)


Yep, could be. Doesn’t change the fact that he’s an a**hole, but sometimes a-holes light fires under people.
 

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I'm still trying to figure out who Prohm is as a coach. For his first two years he basically just kept CFH's sysstem in place because those were the players he had.

Last year, he didn't have anywhere near a full roster so it was hard to tell what he wanted to do.

This year, the team looks talented but without an identity. They certainly aren't an elite defensive team. They really only click on offense when two or more players get hot on a particular day.

Listening to the latest CF podcast they pointed out that the team rarely runs offense. The offense is predicated on individuals being able to score.

So I'm confused about what Prohm's system is. Does he not intend to run an offense? Is he trying to implement a system and the players aren't buying in.

It would be nice to know what he wants the image of the team to be.

Iowa State is the best offensive team in the Big 12 (ask Bill Self, he said so too) by allowing a free flowing, let them play style. That's an identity.
 

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Iowa State is the best offensive team in the Big 12 (ask Bill Self, he said so too) by allowing a free flowing, let them play style. That's an identity.
I think that is what they are shooting for, but there needs to be discipline in the flow. Hopefully that comes with age and experience from the young guys. Having THT take multiple quick, contested shots that are low percentage plays makes things look awfully bad at times and puts us in an offensive funk. If we play good defense, it allows for some bad possessions from the offense. If we don't, the inconsistencies become more glaring.
 
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I don't need to add much to this, except: coaching basketball at ISU is a 365 day deal every year and we as fans see less than 1% of it. While we are ******** about who should be subbed in or when a timeout should be called or what inbounds play is most effective under the basket, what ISU players are being taught in Prohm's time here is how to work through problems on the floor and play for each other. It may not be pretty at times but does prepare them to do great things like yesterday when they figure them out.
 

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Iowa State is the best offensive team in the Big 12 (ask Bill Self, he said so too) by allowing a free flowing, let them play style. That's an identity.

I agree about the offense. The thing I wished he would do is adjust defenses. He did against KSU, and it stemmed their runs.

Heck! maybe he was just waiting to pull this defensive wrinkle out for tournament time. Great coaches do that kind of thing.
 

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I agree about the offense. The thing I wished he would do is adjust defenses. He did against KSU, and it stemmed their runs.

Heck! maybe he was just waiting to pull this defensive wrinkle out for tournament time. Great coaches do that kind of thing.

We've definitely been running things this week that I haven't seen before, so I think that's exactly what he's doing.
 

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In this era of transfers, one and dones etc, there just isn’t the offensive structure and organization that there used to be. Defense has become even more important overall in this era, and our guys seem to have very recently found a new level of intensity there. Senior leadership, which for us is currently at a level that is as good as anyone in the country, is also critical to success. Wigginton seems to be rounding into form at a critical time. I am still concerned about opponents with size in the tournament, but Hell, we could beat anyone right now.
 

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I think that is what they are shooting for, but there needs to be discipline in the flow. Hopefully that comes with age and experience from the young guys. Having THT take multiple quick, contested shots that are low percentage plays makes things look awfully bad at times and puts us in an offensive funk. If we play good defense, it allows for some bad possessions from the offense. If we don't, the inconsistencies become more glaring.

I would be okay if THT was given a red light on 3s except for set plays. He’s so damned good at getting to the rim, yet he seems to always fall in love with that step back three that he only makes about 15% of the time.
 

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I would be okay if THT was given a red light on 3s except for set plays. He’s so damned good at getting to the rim, yet he seems to always fall in love with that step back three that he only makes about 15% of the time.

I agree. Seems like he “settles” for threes at times. Problem is he’s streaky. At KSU he was grooving. Playing KSU in the Big 12 tournament, not at all.

Being guarded by someone quick and strong like Diarra seems to make THT settle. He been on the bench at the end of games lately. Dude is young.
 

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I agree. Seems like he “settles” for threes at times. Problem is he’s streaky. At KSU he was grooving. Playing KSU in the Big 12 tournament, not at all.

Being guarded by someone quick and strong like Diarra seems to make THT settle. He been on the bench at the end of games lately. Dude is young.
He still takes plays off quite a bit. Once he learns to play hard consistently and drive when his shot isn't falling, he will be almost impossible to stop.
 
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I would be okay if THT was given a red light on 3s except for set plays. He’s so damned good at getting to the rim, yet he seems to always fall in love with that step back three that he only makes about 15% of the time.
I think he sees that as his ticket to the NBA. Basically un-guard-able when he's hitting that shot, at any level.
 

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