Pres. Leath Comments on Rhoads

[roundball]

So all you guys that are set on firing CPR, this team was very close to having 5 wins and probably should have. A 5 win season would of kept a lot of these topics out of this message board.

I hate this argument. By that same token, we were just 10 points removed from a winless season.

Good teams don't look back at close losses and say "well, we almost won that one, let's count it".

 

[LindenCy]

You are what your record says you are. The whole shoulda coulda woulda thing is worn out. Call it like you see it. The Iowa basketball team is bad. The Iowa football team is mediocre. The Iowa State Basketball team is very good, and possibly elite. The Iowa State football team is atrocious.

Two horrible seasons in a row should be enough for anyone to get the excuse making reaction out of their system.

Out of the mouths of Hawkeyes...

 

[Dreamyfred]

Leath is a leader. Leaders make the tough decisions. Some people don't like that.

Yes most "leaders" back down from big challenges like creating a safe Veishea event by just deciding to get rid of it altogether. Killing a long tradition and the most fun event in an ISU students tenure because you are too scared of something happening to your reputation. Well done leader!

 

[LindenCy]

Yes most "leaders" back down from big challenges like creating a safe Veishea event by just deciding to get rid of it altogether. Killing a long tradition and the most fun event in an ISU students tenure because you are too scared of something happening to your reputation. Well done leader!

Sorry, all this talk of "leader" reminded me of this:

[video=youtube;7fnmhj58o0k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fnmhj58o0k[/video]

 

[Section110]

Out of the mouths of Hawkeyes...

I'm one Hawkeye so it would be singular, and I'm not sure what your point is.
What I said is true. There's no need for excuses.

 

[LindenCy]

I'm one Hawkeye so it would be singular, and I'm not sure what your point is.
What I said is true. There's no need for excuses.

I meant it to affirm your statement. As in "out of the mouths of babes..." As in, someone who shouldn't have this insight is the one with it.

 

[Section110]

I meant it to affirm your statement. As in "out of the mouths of babes..." As in, someone who shouldn't have this insight is the one with it.

Ahhh insight received. Thank you for clarifying.

 

[weR138]

I meant it to affirm your statement. As in "out of the mouths of babes..." As in, someone who shouldn't have this insight is the one with it.

I'm one Hawkeye so it would be singular, and I'm not sure what your point is.
What I said is true. There's no need for excuses.

Lulz. Not very literate for a UI grad...must be another Kirkwood trailer park hawk.

 

[UNIGuy4Cy]

I'm going to divert the thread for a minute, anyone ever heard what happened to Charlie Rogers at Iowa State? JUCO all American and just loaded with talent. Have a relative that lives in Minneapolis and is close to the Minnesota program, they are just jumping for joy over him and expect him to be all big 10. What a loss.

 

[Section110]

I'm going to divert the thread for a minute, anyone ever heard what happened to Charlie Rogers at Iowa State? JUCO all American and just loaded with talent. Have a relative that lives in Minneapolis and is close to the Minnesota program, they are just jumping for joy over him and expect him to be all big 10. What a loss.

He's a solid player. I would be surprised if he made first team all B10 though.

 

[Stormin]

If we won 6-7, we would be the giddiest fanbase around. There might be 1-2 complaints for the year, but that's it.
6-7 is all anyone really expects. It shouldn't be that hard to achieve.

Really?? Because I have heard numerous times from posters that we should not be satisfied with the losing records of our 6 win seasons when we finished 6-7 with a bowl loss. That we should not be satisfied with mediocrity. Now you are telling me that no one would complain? That the fan base would be downright giddy? And that is all anyone really expects???

 

[iowast8fan]

To be honest, not really a Presidents job to comment on the future of a coach. That's ADs job. Not sure he should say anything at all. Doesn't help getting talent in.

I don't see a problem with it. Pollard is PR's boss. Leath is Pollard's boss. It's not like Leath isn't within the chain of command there.

 

[Section110]

Really?? Because I have heard numerous times from posters that we should not be satisfied with the losing records of our 6 win seasons when we finished 6-7 with a bowl loss. That we should not be satisfied with mediocrity. Now you are telling me that no one would complain? That the fan base would be downright giddy? And that is all anyone really expects???

You have to climb the ladder. I think once you start to consistently achieve 5,6,7 win seasons then at that point you can start to make the claim that it is unacceptable to continue being satisfied with that. However, you can't logically be disappointed with a 6 or 7 win season when the norm has been less than that. Some schools do make big leaps, but it's rare and it certainly isn't easy. First you have to have a good season, and then you have to capitalize on a good season by gathering good recruits. Neither of those are easy to do for programs in the state of Iowa.

I look at Baylor, and I realize they've had the perfect storm of events unfold for them. They are in a talent rich state, and their rise coinsided with Texas' fall. Plus they run a flashy system that attracts athletes. Iowa has been stuck in mediocrity lately. Ideally, ISU would be capitalizing on that, but they just haven't been able to. It's a lot more difficult to do in Iowa because you're almost always relying on grabbing recruits from elsewhere.

 

[weR138]

You have to climb the ladder. I think once you start to consistently achieve 5,6,7 win seasons then at that point you can start to make the claim that it is unacceptable to continue being satisfied with that. However, you can't logically be disappointed with a 6 or 7 win season when the norm has been less than that. Some schools do make big leaps, but it's rare and it certainly isn't easy. First you have to have a good season, and then you have to capitalize on a good season by gathering good recruits. Neither of those are easy to do for programs in the state of Iowa.

I look at Baylor, and I realize they've had the perfect storm of events unfold for them. They are in a talent rich state, and their rise coinsided with Texas' fall. Plus they run a flashy system that attracts athletes. Iowa has been stuck in mediocrity lately. Ideally, ISU would be capitalizing on that, but they just haven't been able to. It's a lot more difficult to do in Iowa because you're almost always relying on grabbing recruits from elsewhere.

There is no perfect storm. It's program building. BU was no different last season than 10 years ago except for Briles. KSU is no different now than in 1985 except for Snyder. Iowa was no different in 1985 than in 1975 except for Hayden Fry.

It can happen at ISU with the right coach and it doesn't take magic.

 

[Section110]

There is no perfect storm. It's program building. BU was no different last season than 10 years ago except for Briles. KSU is no different now than in 1985 except for Snyder. Iowa was no different in 1985 than in 1975 except for Hayden Fry.

It can happen at ISU with the right coach and it doesn't take magic.

Briles is by far the biggest part of Baylor's resurgence. I never discounted his role in their success. However, if you think the fact they are in the state of Texas and the fact the University of Texas has been down hasn't helped them then you are severely misguided.

 

[Rhoadhoused]

Lots of similarities. The bigger fish out there are willing to wait for the blueblood programs rather than risk going to a possible coaching graveyard.

IMO, we were actually in a better position when McCarney left, at the time Chizik was hired. We played in a weak Big 12 North Division, had 4 non-conference games, and McCarney had recent success. Chizik bombed at ISU. CPR started great but has now struggled. And is on the hot seat. We play in the Big 12. Only 3 non-conference games. Tough area to recruit to. Not many Division I players in the state. And there are 2 BCS schools along with an FCS power in the state. Lots of challenges. And a fanbase that does not think 6 or 7 wins is even good enough anymore. Plus the pay is the lowest in the Big 12.

That is the peak of delusion.

If ISU could get 6 wins next year we would fill JTS to the brim even with the SEZ.

What's not good enough is 6 wins once in 4 years, finishing with 5 wins over 2 years.

And Rhoads has never had 7 wins in a 12 game season. (I don't hold his bowl losses against him either)

 

[Cy$]

So all you guys that are set on firing CPR, this team was very close to having 5 wins and probably should have. A 5 win season would of kept a lot of these topics out of this message board.

5 wins still isn't good enough so that point is pointless.

 

[Scott34]

Your right. When people have there mind made up that the coach needs terminated nothing can change there mind.

 

[roundball]

Your right. When people have there mind made up that the coach needs terminated nothing can change there mind.

You hit the trifecta, nice!

 

[Rhoadhoused]

Your right. When people have there mind made up that the coach needs terminated nothing can change there mind.

Come on man, are you really trying to make the case that we almost had 5 wins? Be real here. We were much closer to winless than 5 wins.