Positive *Informative* Covid News

[Dopey]

The vaccine ready by November kinda weirds me out. Good news though I suppose.

Side note. This thread is awesome. Some interesting links posted with great, respectful discussion.

Sane link posted in the Cave and it turns into a bloodbath.

Nice work everyone!

 

[Clonehomer]

The vaccine ready by November kinda weirds me out. Good news though I suppose.

Side note. This thread is awesome. Some interesting links posted with great, respectful discussion.

Sane link posted in the Cave and it turns into a bloodbath.

Nice work everyone!

If it were a singular vaccine that were available as others were being rejected, I may be more worried. But with multiple vaccine candidates showing to be successful and safe does make me feel better that the weakened virus isn't showing to be an issue.

 

[Dandy]

I think they'll keep promising it early, but wont actually have it until some time in 2021.

In March 2020, an infectious disease expert (professor and epidemiologist Michael Osterholm from the Univ. of Minnesota) was on the JRE podcast and said "Realistically, we're years out from a safe and effective vaccine." He referenced the Zika virus, which five years later still does not have a vaccine. "We can make a vaccine for the virus overnight, but the problem is we don't know how safe and effective it will be."

 

[FOREVERTRUE]

Just got off a virtual town hall with some Mayo Clinic Drs and the virologist seems skeptical as to how effective the initial vaccines will be. Anything is somewhat good, but the possibility of a 10% effective would have the possibility of giving people a false sense of security actually making matters worse.

 

[kcbob79clone]

Have heard a lot about Moderna vaccine but I don't recall much from Pfizer whose CEO said today that they may have results of their vaccine trials in October. Impressive number of people they tested.

Pfizer CEO confirms late-stage coronavirus vaccine trial may have results in October

Pfizer's potential vaccine is one of three backed by the U.S. that's currently in late-stage testing.

www.cnbc.com

 

[VeloClone]

A friend of ours who works in healthcare just entered a vaccine study.

 

[BCClone]

A friend of ours who works in healthcare just entered a vaccine study.

@SpokaneCY is in one. Haven’t seen him post in a while maybe he got knocked off

 

[kcbob79clone]

 

[NWICY]

Yes there are a lot of help wanted signs. But most are for high risk (Covid risk) and low paying jobs. You're not seeing the same need in office jobs with decent pay.

So I guess what's the solution? Should people be putting themselves at risk for $12.00 an hour? All while you have people going out of their way to bypass mask requirements to make a statement which further outs these people at risk.

Just seems like an easy argument to make for those working outside the service industry to complain about the unemployment benefits.

Not all jobs are low paying that are out there, most any concrete delivery place has a sign out for drivers and those are almost always listed at $20/hr.

 

[aeroclone]

Just got off a virtual town hall with some Mayo Clinic Drs and the virologist seems skeptical as to how effective the initial vaccines will be. Anything is somewhat good, but the possibility of a 10% effective would have the possibility of giving people a false sense of security actually making matters worse.

A 10% effective vaccine wouldn't be approved. Faucci has mentioned before that it would need to be over 50% to get approved.

 

[FOREVERTRUE]

A 10% effective vaccine wouldn't be approved. Faucci has mentioned before that it would need to be over 50% to get approved.

Without long term testing (think like a year minimum) they won't know the full scope of its effectiveness.

 

[GoCy]

In March 2020, an infectious disease expert (professor and epidemiologist Michael Osterholm from the Univ. of Minnesota) was on the JRE podcast and said "Realistically, we're years out from a safe and effective vaccine." He referenced the Zika virus, which five years later still does not have a vaccine. "We can make a vaccine for the virus overnight, but the problem is we don't know how safe and effective it will be."

You should check out his more recent material, he is actually much more confident in an earlier vaccine now. He is the director of CIDRAP at the University of Minnesota, and does a weekly podcast. I highly recommend the podcast, as he stays factual and scientific, and tries to keep out of wading into the politics.

 

[throwittoblythe]

In March 2020, an infectious disease expert (professor and epidemiologist Michael Osterholm from the Univ. of Minnesota) was on the JRE podcast and said "Realistically, we're years out from a safe and effective vaccine." He referenced the Zika virus, which five years later still does not have a vaccine. "We can make a vaccine for the virus overnight, but the problem is we don't know how safe and effective it will be."

In March 2020, an infectious disease expert (professor and epidemiologist Michael Osterholm from the Univ. of Minnesota) was on the JRE podcast and said "Realistically, we're years out from a safe and effective vaccine." He referenced the Zika virus, which five years later still does not have a vaccine. "We can make a vaccine for the virus overnight, but the problem is we don't know how safe and effective it will be."

I follow Dr. Osterholm very closely as he's honest and doesn't beat around the bush with his comments. He has a regular podcast for those interested that is 100% COVID focused.

I listened to his interview on JRE a couple times now. He went on to say that, basically, even after a Phase 3 trial, you're just not going to have data for every age group, demographic, etc, to cover all your bases for side effects. It's certainly a trade-off that we are making to get to a vaccine to help the most people as quickly as possible, while being as safe as we can.

You should check out his more recent material, he is actually much more confident in an earlier vaccine now. He is the director of CIDRAP at the University of Minnesota, and does a weekly podcast. I highly recommend the podcast, as he stays factual and scientific, and tries to keep out of wading into the politics.

I second this. I follow Dr Osterholm fairly closely. He’s very transparent and doesn’t beat around the bush. Like many studying the virus, his views have changed as he learned more. In fact, in that JRE episode, he kind of poo-pops the mask idea. Of course he’s changed his views on that since then.

 

[larrysarmy]

Encouraging stat on young people.

 

[Cyientist]

It has gone better in Iowa schools, at least the ones I've been paying attention to, than I had thought it would. I think the mitigation efforts are working. Hopefully people realize that it is because of these efforts we are seeing the positive outcomes and not that the virus isn't as big of a concern as the experts thought.

I think the structured contact tracing and subsequent quarantine protocols the schools have put in place are more rigid than what people were doing in the summer since then it was more of recommendation than a requirement.

Of course, things can change quickly. We aren't really driving cases down, but there isn't exponential growth right now.

 

[Althetuna]

Encouraging stat on young people.

FYI this model only holds if schools are will to shutdown to limit the spread of the virus.

Note: We currently do not explicitly model school reopenings. This is a situation we will continue to monitor. We believe it is possible that we will see an increase in infections due to school reopenings, but it is unclear to what extent this will translate to deaths. Furthermore, unlike state reopenings, schools have shown a willingness to shut down after the initial instances of an outbreak. This limits the potential for exponential growth that are typically needed to sustain a large outbreak.

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We use artificial intelligence to accurately forecast infections, deaths, and recovery timelines of the COVID-19 / coronavirus pandemic in the US and globally

covid19-projections.com

 

[kcbob79clone]

Your cat could save your life during this pandemic.

https://physicstoday.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/PT.3.4565

 

[kcbob79clone]

News about other companies and their vaccine work

GSK and Sanofi to start human trials of potential Covid-19 vaccine

World’s largest vaccine makers to begin testing on people in US with eye on rollout in early 2021

www.theguardian.com

 

[Neptune78]

I follow Dr. Osterholm very closely as he's honest and doesn't beat around the bush with his comments....

I second this. I follow Dr Osterholm fairly closely. He’s very transparent and doesn’t beat around the bush......

I worked with this guy and I would beg to differ. His science is not always sound and he has one of the biggest egos in the state of Minnesota.
One of my favorite Dr. O proclamations-- pasteurization does not kill salmonella.

 

[throwittoblythe]

I worked with this guy and I would beg to differ. His science is not always sound and he has one of the biggest egos in the state of Minnesota.
One of my favorite Dr. O proclamations-- pasteurization does not kill salmonella.

Interesting to hear an insiders take. I, of course, am just a layman. I do appreciate you sharing that though.