All of these vaccines seem to potentially be ready around the same time. That might help improve some of the vaccine distribution as long as they are effective and safe.
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What percentage of the population getting the vaccine is the above based on? If it is anywhere north of 60% I don't think we have to worry about it.
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I listened to an entire episode of his podcast this morning and some of it made sense, but other things just don't hold up if anyone actually looks at the numbers. Here are my biggest issues with him and other mainstream experts that they never address:
1. Talks relentlessly about reported cases, but makes no mention of known issues with PCR tests. No explanation on huge increases in cases found in France, Spain, Italy and the Netherlands over the past two months, and almost not increase in deaths or hospitalizations to follow. It's never addressed. I'll hear them talk about their concern for the increasing cases they claim result from ending lockdowns. But no explanation on if those people are actually getting sick (they don't appear to be).
2. Doesn't offer any explanation as to why South America, Central America, Africa, Australia and the southern U.S. states all had a wave at the same time. SARS COV2 was found in sewage samples in Brazil from November. Also in Spain in November. Why did the virus take off in Spain in March-April, but was delayed in Brazil until June-July? Brazil never had government mandated lockdowns to delay it.
3. The relentless belief of 60-70% "herd immunity". Why are deaths in Sweden gone? Has any explanation been offered on Sweden? The only thing I hear them say is "Sweden is nowhere near herd immunity, they've got a long way to go, it's the wrong approach." No explanation of the actual decline and almost disappearance of the virus there. No lockdowns, schools are all open and almost no one wears masks.
4. No explanation for the extremely low amount of deaths in Africa. We're talking some extremely high density areas, with no way to socially distance, little PPE, etc... I haven't heard anyone in the mainstream take this on. I've seen/heard plausible explanations for it, but not from mainstream experts.
5. Lockdowns. As one of the health leaders in Sweden has said since the beginning "I'd ask anyone who is implementing lockdowns, how do you get out of them? Because the virus is still going to be there." As New Zealand is finding out, the virus isn't going away. Osterholm still wants an extremely strict, nationwide 6 week lockdown to slow down the spread so we can.....?? I don't really know why, because they virus will still be here. Never mind the fact that it's slowing down already. I hate to keep bringing up Sweden, but if lockdowns are needed to slow the spread, then what's the explanation for Sweden? The U.K. has been ending lockdowns over the past few months, and deaths have gone to almost zero. That trend is happening all over Europe. Schools open, restaurants open, bars open. Very few hospitalizations and deaths.
Peru had a military enforced lockdown. One of the most strict in the world. Now #1 in deaths/capita. Brazil had no federal mandates, and have less deaths than Peru. Explanation? Anyone...?
Our total # of people employed is roughly 93% of where we started before COVID hit.
| Sex | Feb-20 | Mar-20 | Apr-20 | May-20 | Jun-20 | Jul-20 | Aug-20 |
| Men | 100.0% | 98.3% | 86.2% | 88.3% | 90.7% | 91.4% | 93.5% |
| Women | 100.0% | 98.2% | 83.1% | 85.4% | 89.3% | 90.2% | 92.3% |
kcbob79clone
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Part of it is that the virus is less than a year old and we are still learning. But also part of it is that unless the studies confirm what we are being told they are ridiculed even though they are reputable scientists and groups.
kcbob79clone
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Blue Valley schools, Kansas City metro area, schools are back in the game
Not sure this is considered positive news here, but the opinions relate to some of the things going on in Iowa right now. There is an op-ed in the WSJ coauthored by faculty members at Stanford and Harvard medical schools, respectively:
www.wsj.com
It is gated. When I'm signed out, it looks like you can see about the first four and one-half paragraphs. From the first two paragraphs:
Later they talk about university students and protecting vulnerable teachers. They then make this general comment:
If you check back here in a few days or weeks, or do a Google search on the title, perhaps the full article would be available then.
Opinion | The Case Against Covid Tests for the Young and Healthy
Hunting for asymptomatic cases encourages pointless shutdowns. Protect the vulnerable instead.
www.wsj.com
It is gated. When I'm signed out, it looks like you can see about the first four and one-half paragraphs. From the first two paragraphs:
Later they talk about university students and protecting vulnerable teachers. They then make this general comment:
If you check back here in a few days or weeks, or do a Google search on the title, perhaps the full article would be available then.
Also, I clicked for the first time on the NYT numbers I think on Saturday, when it showed Story County as the nation's hot spot, I think. The little graphic on their front page for Iowa, was more like a straight line at a 45 degree angle.
Not sure whether you have to pay, or whether everyone has free access, but I was impressed with all the information available there. When you clicked through, you could also see how they showed Iowa had just started reporting the antigen test positives (as they still show).
The Iowa graphic doesn't look quite the same, though it has looked kind of like it does now most of this week. But it is still on the front page:
www.nytimes.com
Not sure whether you have to pay, or whether everyone has free access, but I was impressed with all the information available there. When you clicked through, you could also see how they showed Iowa had just started reporting the antigen test positives (as they still show).
The Iowa graphic doesn't look quite the same, though it has looked kind of like it does now most of this week. But it is still on the front page:
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I just want to say I’ve enjoyed this thread very much. The links and articles have been helpful to read. Not everything is 100% correct of course, but it’s nice knowing people who trying to share positive news and trends, helps counter act much of what is presented on my nightly news.
You have stated something similar to this at least three different times. Is it really necessary to repeat it over and over in this thread?
I've read his book, in it he points out that the CDC(or its predecessor if the name has changed) held a press conferences in the 80s saying there would be an Aids vaccine within 2 years. Still waiting. Curious what he says lately about the vaccine as I haven't listened to his podcast in a few months, got kind of tired of him. He claims things like we need to come up with creative solutions, but then really doesn't offer any. He also said public wear of masks was largely garbage in that same time frame. He still says physical distancing is far more effective than masks.
Neptune78 - his book definitely reflected a huge ego and was often self serving. I found I definitely disagreed with many of the things he talked about outside his area of expertise that he treated as fact. He also basically advocated for huge, huge, increases in public spending for his field.
I am not bothered by larrysarmy's statement...it is actually refreshing. I have to read many other posters in the "non-positive" covid threads repeat their opinions over and over.
But isn't this the good news COVID thread? Attacking the MSM is neither:
1. COVID specific information
2. Good news.
I have really, really self-censored in this thread. I'm simply asking Larrysarmy to do the same to maintain the spirit of the OP.
kcbob79clone
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I didn't know that there was a limit on saying thank you
I'd be glad to discuss the MSM's coverage of COVID with any and all takers but I gurantee that will move this thread into the cave. The choice is yours.
EDIT: Just for the record, go back and look at the part of the Larry's post I took issue with. I have no problem with him being appreciative of the thread.
kcbob79clone
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lol I read the first part and skimmed over the last part, even with the bolding.
Putting here as it might be positive for some....
Canada's top doctor has advised some people to consider wearing masks during sex and avoid kissing due to COVID-19.
www.upi.com
Canada's top doctor has advised some people to consider wearing masks during sex and avoid kissing due to COVID-19.
Canada's top doctor advises some to consider wearing masks during sex - UPI.com
Canada's top doctor has advised some people to consider wearing masks during sex and avoid kissing due to COVID-19.
www.upi.com
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