Please no QB competition.

[CostaDelMar]

As Field General, the QB will always be the whipping boy when things are going wrong. Is it fair? No. Is either guy getting much help from the rest of the Offense? Not much.

An Injured Sam and a Green Rohach are both probably about equal skill-wise. However, Sam has the leadership edge because of his experience. If Rohach has developed well as of late, then he probably has the physical advantage. After the last game + Rhoads' comments, I think each one of these guys took a mental hit, whether it was intended or not. Sadly, the fact that we even have to talk about this means that yes, we are now in a QB Controversy.

 

[Omaha Cy]

Baylor won 71-7. That game became a scrimmage for Rhoads. Sam when healthy is clearly our guy.

 

[DarkStar]

I am OK with giving both quarter backs playing time.

Given how active we have the QBs in the running game, it is pretty obvious that no one will make it through the season without getting injured. Even when we didn't run the qb as much, it was rare when we had a qb make it through the season or whose play wasn't severely limited due to injuries.

It is just the way the game has changed.

I am also ok with putting Chanse in there. He has a really slow release time compared to the other two (at least from what I could tell from the clips they put up from camp) but with his size he should be able to hold up to the beating he will take and will pose a power run threat much like Austin Anuard.

 

[jbindm]

I love Rhoads and what he's done for the school and program, but his mismanagement of the most important position on the field is going to be his eventual downfall if the qb carousel never stops.

 

[erikbj]

It just puts that much more pressure on Sam or Grant in the game knowing if they miss a couple of throws or something that they will be benched. Makes the game that much more difficult for them. Not to mention it is also difficult for the other players who have to adjust in-game.

It would prepare them for life. If you suck at your job, most likely you will be replaced (unless you are in Congress, then your job is safe and you can keep on sucking)

 

[DarkStar]

I love Rhoads and what he's done for the school and program, but his mismanagement of the most important position on the field is going to be his eventual downfall if the qb carousel never stops.

If anything brings Paul down it will be recruiting, a couple bad hires at OC, and sticking with an offensive scheme that does not match the players he is able to recruit to ISU.

Rotating QB's that have consistently played multiple games as badly as Tiller, Jantze, Barnett, and Richardson have played is not mismanagement.

 

[CyinCo]

Nice work coaching staff. Let's make this a QB issue. It isn't. It's a coaching issue. It's a technique issue. On offense, top to bottom poor coaching. Poor Line Technique. Poor play calling. Poor WR route running. Poor blocking by the RBs and WRs. This comes back to coaching. How about a Coaching competition heading into OSU game. I'd like that poll better.

 

[DuckDynastyCy]

Competition is always good. Why sell out on a player that hasn't done much to deserve it? If you don't do your job well, give someone else a chance. That's how it works in real life.

Yeah, but 1. Same is CLEARLY a very good QB and much better at this point than GR. 2. He won the job in the off season 3. He has a proven track record from last year-see a decent OL 4. The issue is at OL and OC.

I'd love to throw CM and every offensive lineman into the QB position in practice and get frickin drilled like our QB's have this season. Maybe they would block and coach harder when they get hit 85% of the time with NO time to throw and no one getting open when the few times they do have 3 seconds.

 

[DuckDynastyCy]

Nice work coaching staff. Let's make this a QB issue. It isn't. It's a coaching issue. It's a technique issue. On offense, top to bottom poor coaching. Poor Line Technique. Poor play calling. Poor WR route running. Poor blocking by the RBs and WRs. This comes back to coaching. How about a Coaching competition heading into OSU game. I'd like that poll better.

Personally I think the local journalists are dreaming this up. I never got that there was going be a QB competition out of CPR but "evaluation", which they do every week, yes.

 

[DuckDynastyCy]

I read Rhoads' comments, and maybe I'm being pollyanic here, but I think that more than anything they're closely monitoring Richardson's health and trying to determine A) at what point his injury makes him less effective than Rohach and B) has he reached that point.

I don't think Saturday's starter will indicate who the "#1 guy" is, but rather if Richardson is healthy enough to be more effective than Rohach. I think its better to talk in terms of competition for the sake of OSU's prep to keep them on edge.

I really hope/think that behind the scenes this is purely about where Sam's health is at, and both guys know this. I really, really hope. Because it's really obvious that when healthy, Sam is 100% the better option.

This.

 

[fsanford]

If they don't fix the o-line, you could have Andrew Luck taking snap's and it still would not matter. That O-Line is a sieve right now. Maybe due to injuries there is not much they can do, but you would hope they still show some improvement. Also does ISU have a slant pattern in their playbook? Or is that play not possible in the cap gun errr I mean pistol?

 

[Clonefan94]

And then we further have a carousel that prevents development with our quarterbacks, just dandy!

I agree with this, plus, it seems like a convenient way to blame our Offensive woes on a QB situation rather than the fact that the OC just plain sucks. If Richardson really is still that banged up, then fine, put the guy in there that gives us the best shot. I didn't see anything on Saturday though that made me think the coaches had made the wrong decision in having Richardson be the starter.

I just watch what's going on out on the field and honestly can't believe this is even a topic of conversation. Our offense is so bad as a whole, there is no way to fairly evaluate either player. The only strength right now that would get one guy the job over the other, is who scrambles better, because essentially that is our offense right now. Snap the ball, Oh ****, first guy isn't open, run for your life!

 

[Wesley]

"Please no QB competition" are literally are the first words that came to my mind when I heard about it. I don't see how a QB competition can help either of these QBs in any way. This season has been frustrating enough, can we get a break for once?

There probably would be no qb competition if Sam was not continually hurting. How many of the last five years have we been able to start just one qb including injuries? Zero. You are blindly kidding yourself that we will use one qb all season with our type of running qb offense. Our qbs get hurt and then it is next man in. It has been explained that Sam's ankle injury will be with him for the rest of the season, so we need a second qb primed and ready to go. That means reps for GR. It is the offensive scheme. It is Iowa State football at the present.

 

[CycoCyclone]

This isn't a QB issue, this is an OC planning/preparation issue

 

[The_Architect]

I am not writing off Rohach because i think the kid has potential, but seriously. Richardson gives us the best opportunity to win this year. It has to be demoralizing to a kid when he automatically is in a QB competition because the lack of offensive production (which is mostly offensive line and coaching issues) and has no help from the running game or receiver separation.

A QB issue is the last thing this team needs after getting beaten up on. We have seen how good Sam can be when he has been given time to throw and when the running game is on. Again, not bashing Rohach, i just think Sam is the better option right now (even with the small sample size of Rohach).

Totally agree. I can't believe there's a freaking poll question on the main page about this. Richardson is the guy and it's not even close. OSU is beatable and not nearly as good as Baylor. We have winnable games coming up (OSU, KSU, TCU and KU). I'd rather not see Rohach the rest of the year.

 

[CyTwins]

Well the depth chart has an OR at the QB position so brace yourself

 

[CyDude16]

I watched Creekmur in HS - he is decent! He played bb at ASU and is just as athletic as our 2 playing. He threw the ball all the time in HS. I know he has a shaky background but when your losing by 60-70 points and your qb has shown nothing - why not try something different.

Because the problems don't begin with the qb, are you that daft?

 

[ThatllDoCy]

I don't consider it a QB competition, but giving Sam some help. If Grant can take some snaps maybe Sam can get healthy. Maybe Grant can be more dynamic running and give us a wrinkle ot win the game.

Sam is not winning us games hurt.

 

[Londo]

We should probably just go out and sign Tebow since Sam is out for the year with a torn ACL

Edit: Sorry wrong Sam....Put Tiller in

 

[Cyclonepride]

The only factor should be Sam's health. If he's healthy enough to run, he should be the man.