One and done, what is your opinion?

Cyclonesince78

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If you're good enough to be a professional in any field, you should be allowed to do it immediately.

/thread.
 

GMan

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The one and done rule is not an NCAA rule, it's an NBA rule, you realize that, right?

But they allow it. The NCAA could create rules to disallow it, but they don't. It is the NCAA's responsibility to uphold the student athlete concept, and by their inaction, they have decided it's OK. I am 100% fine with this decision, but I am just pointing out what they have decided to do.
 
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coolerifyoudid

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NBA for sure made the right move with the age requirement.

College ball is more fun to watch with more talent available. The mockery of the student athlete argument is weak. Getting a degree is pointless if you can make a few mill playing pro. Colleges are profiting wildly off them and offering something that really doesn't cost them much other than a spot in a classroom and a small apartment at best. Besides Hoiball could soon experience the benefits of this system in the form of RV.

It's really not weak. We are still talking about student athletes, not the NBA D-league. We all know the reality that most high-profile athletes are using college as a resume for a pro career and not as a learning experience, but the one-and-dones really perpetuate that stereotype to the fullest.

Getting a degree is pointless if you can make a few mill playing pro.

Financially yes, but unless your degree is in basket weaving, getting a degree is still something to be proud of.
 

abcguyks

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Colleges should always be penalized for preparing people to succeed in their chosen profession.

You don't need the NCAA to prepare for an NBA career. Specifically what courses are these student athletes taking that prepare them for success in the NBA?
 

CyJack13

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You don't need the NCAA to prepare for an NBA career. Specifically what courses are these student athletes taking that prepare them for success in the NBA?

Dribble-Drive 101 with Coach Cal. You don't think spending a year for a Coach K, or Calipari or Izzo better prepares you for the NBA than coming straight from high school?
 

Cydkar

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I'd like it better if schools would make sure players who would likely be 1 and done or 2 and done players take classes in financial literacy.

Or even the general student population.
 

Cydkar

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But they allow it. The NCAA could create rules to disallow it, but they don't. It is the NCAA's responsibility to uphold the student athlete concept, and by their inaction, they have decided it's OK. I am 100% fine with this decision, but I am just pointing out what they have decided to do.

The NCAA can't do jack.
 
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The entire concept of amateurism in the NCAA is a sham. If you're in a rock band and get paid for gigs, do you get barred from playing in the marching band? If you get paid to program a website, are you kicked off the solar car team? The only reason the NCAA is special is to uphold their tax-exempt status as a "non-profit" organization.
 

Judoka

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I don't like it but I don't blame the athletes or the schools that take advantage of it. It exists solely to protect NBA GMs against drafting guys who are duds. They instead get a year to watch guys play against better competition.

Baseball and Hockey both co-exist with minor leagues and colleges for players who want to take different routes. Why can't basketball?
 

weR138

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If you can die for your country at 18, you can play in the NBA. Let the players and GM's make the choice and live with the consequences.

If you're good enough to be a professional in any field, you should be allowed to do it immediately.

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That's an intense way of putting it Nate but I agree.

78's comment is typically how I respond to the question. I always say if you could start work and pass your PE exams on the first try w/o going to college why the hell would you spend the time/money getting an engineering degree?

But I disagree that it's the end of the thread. What makes it more complex is that I (and most CBB fans) LOVE the fact that these one and done-ers are playing college ball and not in a minor league system a la the MLB. But at the same time it can make a mockery of the concept of student athletics and it kind of bums me out that ISU is complicit in this.

I mean, my all time favorite Cyclones MBB player was probably Jamal Tinsley but c'mon, Jamal couldn't give a **** about an ISU degree.

Is it good for CBB? imo, yes.
Is it good for the NBA? imo, yes.
Is it good​? I can't say yes.
 

CyCy

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The NCAA has no authority to do anything here. The current system is part of the NBA and players association bargaining agreement. I don't think that the NCAA can step in and dictate terms of somebody else's contract.
 

TykeClone

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You don't need the NCAA to prepare for an NBA career. Specifically what courses are these student athletes taking that prepare them for success in the NBA?

that's an interesting question.

maybe the "solution" to one and dones is to have players declare for the draft prior to the school year (and make it a final decision). When they do that, their class load should be how to manage their money and lives in the NBA.

Elsewhere someone suggested penalizing teams for too many players going pro. I am not sure that I like that as a solution either. But one and dones should probably go against a teams APR rating or reduce the number of scholarships available the following two years.
 

rholtgraves

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What's really funny are the people with Vaughn avatars saying they hate the rule and its a sham.
The NCAA can't do anything. You can't make someone go to school and they can't stop kids from attending school. I have no problem with it at all. It improves the NBA and College games.

It would be nice i they stayed longer but I'll take them for one year. The number of one and dones is pretty small to begin with
 

mcblogerson

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Hate it. Kobe, KG, Lebron didn't need college. Guys like Wiggins don't either.
So you hate it b/c it's not fair to that one special player/year that can't play in the NBA due to age requirements? They could still go pro overseas, if they don't have age limits.
 

CyJack13

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So you hate it b/c it's not fair to that one special player/year that can't play in the NBA due to age requirements? They could still go pro overseas, if they don't have age limits.

You can go play overseas and get paid while you're still in high school and it would probably make you a much better basketball player too, but it's not as much fun as being a huge star in college for a year before making millions in the NBA. That's why the "It's not fair" argument is so laughable to me, there's plenty of avenues for these guys to get paid but you hardly see anyone going that route.
 

VeloClone

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You can go play overseas and get paid while you're still in high school and it would probably make you a much better basketball player too, but it's not as much fun as being a huge star in college for a year before making millions in the NBA. That's why the "It's not fair" argument is so laughable to me, there's plenty of avenues for these guys to get paid but you hardly see anyone going that route.

Why would you when you can get paid by simply saying yes to the right coach?
 

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