***Official Men's Basketball National Championship Game Thread***

[cyhiphopp]

Yep, no play on the ball

He was at least reaching toward the front of his body rather than just putting two hands on his back and shoving. The reach is actually more of a play on the ball than anything else.

You basically need to reach for the ball while fouling and they shouldn't call an F1.

 

[cyhiphopp]

You read the rule

Ball OR player

The head of officiating was in the studio and said it was called correctly. I think he makes enough money to consider him and expert.

 

[CycloneErik]

The head of officiating was in the studio and said it was called correctly. I think he makes enough money to consider him and expert.

Does his income or his experience make him an expert?

 

[cyclonespiker33]

The head of officiating was in the studio and said it was called correctly. I think he makes enough money to consider him and expert.

I didn't hear him. Do you believe if the player didn't fall to the floor, from an inadvertent trip, that a F1 would have still been called?

 

[alarson]

The head of officiating was in the studio and said it was called correctly. I think he makes enough money to consider him and expert.

Except that officials almost always back each other's calls up. Its like the first rule of officiating.

 

[cyhiphopp]

Does his income or his experience make him an expert?

I would say experience. Just saying he's paid to make that call. Thanks for allowing me to clarify.

 

[cyhiphopp]

Except that officials almost always back each other's calls up. Its like the first rule of officiating.

At least the officials in game were smart enough to just cal lit a foul at first and go to the monitor to assess the flagrant 1. That gives them a chance to talk it over and confirm.

 

[cyhiphopp]

I didn't hear him. Do you believe if the player didn't fall to the floor, from an inadvertent trip, that a F1 would have still been called?

He stated the trip shouldn't have affected the call. The fact that he didn't reach toward the front of the body to make an attempt at the ball is what made it an F1.

I don't doubt that the player "selling" the foul didn't have anything to do with it though.

Basically the rule is you have to reach for the ball rather than just shove in the back. It's not always called consistently but I think they got it right this time.

 

[stormchaser2014]

He stated the trip shouldn't have affected the call. The fact that he didn't reach toward the front of the body to make an attempt at the ball is what made it an F1.

I don't doubt that the player "selling" the foul didn't have anything to do with it though.

Basically the rule is you have to reach for the ball rather than just shove in the back. It's not always called consistently but I think they got it right this time.

Exactly. Rodriguez has both hands behind, or not clearly in front of the Arkansas guy, Fisher-Davis had at least one hand in front of the Northwestern guy.

 

[cyhiphopp]

Exactly. Rodriguez has both hands behind, or not clearly in front of the Arkansas guy, Fisher-Davis had at least one hand in front of the Northwestern guy.

Pretty sure that's why most of the time, when you see a guy fouling someone at the end of the game, they basically give him a hug and reach around toward the ball. Makes it obvious you're trying to foul without making it an FI or a Tech.

 

[stormchaser2014]

Pretty sure that's why most of the time, when you see a guy fouling someone at the end of the game, they basically give him a hug and reach around toward the ball. Makes it obvious you're trying to foul without making it an FI or a Tech.

Yep. They took "Intentional" out of the rule book, so you can't call a foul by that name. Has to be a flagrant or a common foul. 2 hands to the back of a player and giving even the slightest push or hold is not a common foul, even though it may be called as such at first.

 

[Doc]

SMU is having a horrible time with the USC zone.

 

[Cy$]

SMU is having a horrible time with the USC zone.

Why I picked Baylor to win next round.

 

[3TrueFans]

Does his income or his experience make him an expert?

Maybe.

 

[Desiigner]

I wish we could have landed Ojeleye. Dudes a beast

 

[cstrunk]

USC is hanging tight with SMU with 3:00 remaining. SMU up 60-58, USC ball.

 

[cstrunk]

URI is up by 4 over Creighton, with 7:00 remaining in the first.

 

[cyhiphopp]

Every time I watch McDermott at Creighton I'm overwhelmed with a feeling of disappointment in how he handled the ISU job.

 

[stormchaser2014]

Shake and bake.

 

[cyclonespiker33]

We've got a good ending coming here in the USC-SMU game