***OFFICIAL IOWA STATE TO THE BIG EAST THREAD***

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Probably just a matter of time now.


I doubt even that is a sure thing...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/04/sports/big-12-to-pac-12-oklahoma-ponders-a-move.html?_r=1

"Last year, the Big East engaged Kansas, Kansas State and Missouri in discussions when the Big 12 looked fragile. There is a good possibility that the Big East will follow a similar path toward expansion, especially considering the addition of Texas Christian to the league for next season."
 

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Colorado didn't jump to escape Texas - when they fled to the Pac 10 the rumor was Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, OSU, and Texas was bringing Baylor with them and they jumped when they did to prevent them from doing so.

Exactly what I was referencing. Texas started the big12 collapse, and colorado responded. Now they may be stuck with texas again.
 

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I doubt even that is a sure thing...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/04/sports/big-12-to-pac-12-oklahoma-ponders-a-move.html?_r=1

"Last year, the Big East engaged Kansas, Kansas State and Missouri in discussions when the Big 12 looked fragile. There is a good possibility that the Big East will follow a similar path toward expansion, especially considering the addition of Texas Christian to the league for next season."

If I'm the Big East I in no way stop at 12 in expanding. First of all, Mizzou is gone to the SEC. Second, why wouldn't the Big East go to at least 13 or 14 because its only a matter of time until they get raided by the ACC after the ACC gets raided by the Big 10 and SEC. If you're the Big East, be proactive by giving yourself some wiggle room after you lose some more teams.
 

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During the pre-game radio show, in response to a question about the what was happening with the conference, Jamie made the statment that he "knows the answer but can't say".

Wonder what has already been decided?
That we're screwed.
 

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During the pre-game radio show, in response to a question about the what was happening with the conference, Jamie made the statment that he "knows the answer but can't say".

Wonder what has already been decided?

If this truely is the case I hope he lets the rest of the fan base in on it sooner than later. It would be nice if they all stopped the BS and came out Tuesday and stated where everybody is going to end up. The
 

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If this truely is the case I hope he lets the rest of the fan base in on it sooner than later. It would be nice if they all stopped the BS and came out Tuesday and stated where everybody is going to end up. The

hard telling what it meant, if anything. Entirely possible he was being sarcastic. Just found it a bit curious.
 
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If this truely is the case I hope he lets the rest of the fan base in on it sooner than later. It would be nice if they all stopped the BS and came out Tuesday and stated where everybody is going to end up. The
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agreed. Seems like the football season has been completely overshadowed with all this realignment BS. It's like a nightmare you can't wake up from.
 

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I doubt even that is a sure thing...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/04/sports/big-12-to-pac-12-oklahoma-ponders-a-move.html?_r=1

"Last year, the Big East engaged Kansas, Kansas State and Missouri in discussions when the Big 12 looked fragile. There is a good possibility that the Big East will follow a similar path toward expansion, especially considering the addition of Texas Christian to the league for next season."

Iowa State was also included in that also. This reporter just didn't mention us. don't read anything into our omission in this reporter's article.
 

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I don't think recruiting will take the hit that many think it will take. If you look at our recruiting list, the majority of players are from Florida. Right now, we don't have any teams in Florida in our conference. If we go to Big East, we will have South Florida and most likely be adding Central Florida. Also, the other big state is California. The biggest issue for recruits is whether they will be on TV and have a chance at the big bowls. We will actually have a better chance of going to a BCS bowl in the Big East than the Big 12. Plus, we will still have a Texas team in our conference too and maybe two if Baylor joins also.
 

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I don't know what's going to happen. I want Big XII to survive for many reasons, not just the fact that it's the best option for us.

Imagine how we'd all feel right now if Jantz didn't become Mr. Clutch with 5 minutes left.
 

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I don't know what's going to happen. I want Big XII to survive for many reasons, not just the fact that it's the best option for us.

Imagine how we'd all feel right now if Jantz didn't become Mr. Clutch with 5 minutes left.

I do too, I just find it unlikely with OU now looking around. I like the Big 12 schools, and its been an incredibly competitive and lucrative league.

If the schools in this league would commit to each other, it would be very viable.
 

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Here is my Big East scenario adding KU/KSU/ISU/BU from Big 12 and ECU, UCF and Memphis

ECU - avg attendance 49K+
UCF - avg attendance 39K+ and solidifies the Florida market
(Compare that to WF and Duke who have 30k or less)
Memphis only had 23K, but they play in a large stadium (Liberty Bowl) and it would be an upgrade, but this would be a basketball move for them.

Scheduling-
FB - 2 8-team divisions - play 7 games in division and 2 outside. rotate the outside games every year, so you play each team every four years and play at each location every 8 years.
BB - 4 6-team divisions - play 10 games (home-away) in division and play 1 other division (6 games) each year. Rotate the division you play. You will play each team outside division every 3 years and play at each location every 6 years.
Tournament - Seed based on division finish because of unbalanced schedule and also can help ensure that you play team from outside division in tournament. All 24 in tournament for 7 day tournament. Either quadruple bye or traditional format.

Here are divisions:


Big East Football

East
Syracuse
Connecticut
Rutgers
West Virginia
Pittsburgh
South Florida
Central Florida
East Carolina

West
Louisville
Cincinnati
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Baylor
Texas Christian
Memphis

Big East Basketball

Northeast
Connecticut
Providence
St. John's
Seton Hall
Rutgers
Syracuse

Mid Atlantic
Pittsburgh
Georgetown
West Virginia
Villanova
East Carolina
Cincinnati

Midwest
Marquette
DePaul
Notre Dame
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State

South
Texas Christian
Baylor
South Florida
Central Florida
Louisville
Memphis

I'm liking this as a good option if (when) the Big 12 finally dies.

Here's two none-football thoughts (not that they matter):

So for a basketball tourney, would only the top two or three teams from each division compete?​

We'd be able to have a wrestling tourney that yields auto-tourney seeding.​

I'd finally be able to drive to some athletic events here on the east coast, although that would only matter to me for these next, final two years of grad school.
 

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Not exactly sure.
Been reading the posts and finally decided to jump in the discussion.

Have something to throw out. I think the Big East would be a solid landing spot, but I dont think we want to move until it all explodes. I'm not saying we sit on our hands; I want to do it like last year. Let's have a backup plan in place with the Big East, along with our other North brothern, that says if the Big 12 dies, we go the the BE.

Let OU, OSU, TAM, UT, TT, and any others move first and have to pay a 20-30 million exit fee, take their money (looking at maybe 30 million to sit on our hands) and then walk to the BE and use the exit fees to make up the difference in B12 to BE payments until a new TV deal is worked out. This only works if we have the backup planned locked in though.
 
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Been reading the posts and finally decided to jump in the discussion.

Have something to throw out. I think the Big East would be a solid landing spot, but I dont think we want to move until it all explodes. I'm not saying we sit on our hands; I want to do it like last year. Let's have a backup plan in place with the Big East, along with our other North brothern, that says if the Big 12 dies, we go the the BE.

Let OU, OSU, TAM, UT, TT, and any others move first and have to pay a 20-30 million exit fee, take their money (looking at maybe 30 million to sit on our hands) and then walk to the BE and use the exit fees to make up the difference in B12 to BE payments until a new TV deal is worked out. This only works if we have the backup planned locked in though.

If OU, OSU, TAM, UT, and TT leave, the conference dissolves along with its bylaws. There are no exit fees.

I'm sure we may have a story in court though. We've been expecting some BIG TV money.
 

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Been reading the posts and finally decided to jump in the discussion.

Have something to throw out. I think the Big East would be a solid landing spot, but I dont think we want to move until it all explodes. I'm not saying we sit on our hands; I want to do it like last year. Let's have a backup plan in place with the Big East, along with our other North brothern, that says if the Big 12 dies, we go the the BE.

Let OU, OSU, TAM, UT, TT, and any others move first and have to pay a 20-30 million exit fee, take their money (looking at maybe 30 million to sit on our hands) and then walk to the BE and use the exit fees to make up the difference in B12 to BE payments until a new TV deal is worked out. This only works if we have the backup planned locked in though.

Kinda like that idea...make 'em pay. It's amazing what greed is doing to college athletics these days.