*** Official Colorado vs #8 IOWA STATE Game(Day) Thread ***

ISUChippewa

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Colorado is stinky doodoo. The only stat you can take from this is the 14 TO's we had. Against this trash team that is not good.

We are on the stretch run and this team is not excuting like a final for team.

Oh, f*ck off...

You think this team is going to lose every single fu*king game we play, and when we do win you brag about how it's time for you to p!ss in our Cheerios about it.

You suck and I'm tired of your dumba$$ posts.
 

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Yeah. However, if their are two minutes left and we are up 30 and Curtis Jones or Milan turn an ankle. The first thing out of my mouth and your mouth is "Why are they even in the game at this point". So we lose a player because we need to beat someone by 28 or it's a bad loss. That is stupid. Not only that but the guys that work hard all week don't get to sniff the game because we need to win by 30 points instead of 20 points.

That's not the first thing out of my mouth.

Even a 15-20ish point lead with 5 minutes left can evaporate quickly if the end of the bench is out there and if the opponent hasn't emptied their bench, it's not that simple for ISU to try it.
 
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Not sure if it was mentioned here - but I saw on the ESPN scroll last night that this is the first time in school history we've won 4 straight conference games by double-digits. That's pretty amazing.
It just shows how high the standard has become when a 4 game conference winning streak in which they've won all comfortably is being picked apart in the midst of a season which they're on track to being a 2-3 seed at the very worst realistically and a potential 1 seed if they win out. They were 2-22 four seasons ago, for emphasis purposes. Team is good, really good, despite a few flaws here and there and has a real shot at the Final 4.
 

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Gilbert seems determined to get his turnovers. Now that driving into double teams has been eliminated, he is traveling, passing to no one, palming the ball. Morphing his weakness into unforced turnovers and lazy defense. Uncoachable .

This thread has become invaluable if you need to freshen up your ignore list.
 

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Gilbert seems determined to get his turnovers. Now that driving into double teams has been eliminated, he is traveling, passing to no one, palming the ball. Morphing his weakness into unforced turnovers and lazy defense. Uncoachable .
yeah ur probably right

i think he goes out there to turn it over and sabotage the game!
 

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Give me auburn again. They ain’t beating us twice.
Yeah screw this noise. We don't need any more moral victory nonsense like 2000 where we go around pounding our chest that the real title game happened in the elite 8. We may or may not beat Auburn in a rematch, but either way I don't care to find out until we have secured a Final Four banner for the rafters. A couple years down the road nobody cares how you got there, they just care that you did.
 

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They're on a four game winning streak coming off a pretty devastating stretch that took a lot of internal fortitude to overcome. Many Cyclone teams I've watched would have gone into a bit of a tailspin after that.

Almost every Cyclone team I've ever watched has struggled from time to time in beating teams that they should beat in the dog days of the season. This team is doing that, and in pretty comfortable fashion. Now that they've righted the ship, I expect the focus to be dialed in for the final five game stretch (with the possible except of @OSU)
Maybe I'm overly critical because my expectations are so high but I would probably feel better is we had at least one instance of this team putting it all together and playing elite. Instead we have a bunch of pretty good.

To get to the FF and CCG pretty good probably isn't going to cut it. I'm hopeful you're right and they will dial it in but chances are running out.
 
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Oh, f*ck off...

You think this team is going to lose every single fu*king game we play, and when we do win you brag about how it's time for you to p!ss in our Cheerios about it.

You suck and I'm tired of your dumba$$ posts.
Hehe. Struck a nerve? Good for you to get out of your Rainbows and Unicorn outlook and see the otherside of grounded expectations.

Not true I really felt like we were going to beat KSU instead we got kicked in the nuts.
 

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Reflecting a bit on the game last night. It seemed to me that Lispey was handling the ball more on offense than he has been recently. I wonder if we can take that as improvement of his thumb injury?
 
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I wouldn’t say handled by any means. Was a single digit game most of the second half. Got to 5 multiple times just couldn’t quite get that next bucket. Handled is what Kansas is getting right now.
We never led, but never trailed by more than 12. I recall thinking Houston was getting away with murder on defense but that’s nothing new.
 
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Maybe I'm overly critical because my expectations are so high but I would probably feel better is we had at least one instance of this team putting it all together and playing elite. Instead we have a bunch of pretty good.

To get to the FF and CCG pretty good probably isn't going to cut it. I'm hopeful you're right and they will dial it in but chances are running out.
I think that's an extremely high bar that you've set.

I personally don't want them dialed in at maximum capacity for every random Tuesday night game in January or February against a weaker conference team. Teams that try that end up burned out and worn out by the end of the season.

I think this team has a high floor and high ceiling. The high floor has allowed them to take care of business in the ordinary match ups. The high ceiling had them within a possession of Auburn and got them other nice wins against ranked teams.

I'm confident that they'll be really, really focused when the tournament starts.
 

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If as of today, ISU is looking like a soft 2 in the NCAA tournament, I gotta be honest, I'd rather they be a strong 3. Soft 2 gets you put in Auburn or Duke's bracket. Strong 3 keeps you out. Right?
I'm pretty sure the NCAA is like a snake ranking. Top 1 seed gets the worst 2 seed, and also the best 3 seed in their bracket. It's where we were last year as a 2-seed and getting UCONN and Illinois. **** that was a crap bracket to get stuck in.
 
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That's not the first thing out of my mouth.

Even a 15-20ish point lead with 5 minutes left can evaporate quickly if the end of the bench is out there and if the opponent hasn't emptied their bench, it's not that simple for ISU to try it.

I think CU made an 8-0 run with their starters vs our backups in the last few minutes.
 
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I think that's an extremely high bar that you've set.

I personally don't want them dialed in at maximum capacity for every random Tuesday night game in January or February against a weaker conference team. Teams that try that end up burned out and worn out by the end of the season.

I think this team has a high floor and high ceiling. The high floor has allowed them to take care of business in the ordinary match ups. The high ceiling had them within a possession of Auburn and got them other nice wins against ranked teams.

I'm confident that they'll be really, really focused when the tournament starts.
I agree with you about the performance against the also rans, but also with that goes when competition steps up and the pressure and the attention skyrockets what will this team do?

We haven't played a game like since Mom's been back. This Saturday will tell us if this team is ready to take that "next step" because if you can't do that in this spot then I don't they ever will.

They could play elite and still lose the game which I'm OK with just as long I see that it's in them and it's close. If that happens then I'll be a full believer that this will be a magical ending.
 

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I think that's an extremely high bar that you've set.

I personally don't want them dialed in at maximum capacity for every random Tuesday night game in January or February against a weaker conference team. Teams that try that end up burned out and worn out by the end of the season.

I think this team has a high floor and high ceiling. The high floor has allowed them to take care of business in the ordinary match ups. The high ceiling had them within a possession of Auburn and got them other nice wins against ranked teams.

I'm confident that they'll be really, really focused when the tournament starts.
Thank you. Now that we are a very good to sometimes elite team there are some people on this board that expect us to win every game by 30, and when we don’t we are underperforming. Yes, the kstate loss was not great but **** happens during the season. We hung our heads a bit after the Arizona game, which while unfortunate, happens. They are humans, young men, who can get caught up in that stuff sometimes. Teams very rarely play at their best throughout the season. It happens maybe once or twice a year honestly. What you mentioned is that you want your off games to still be good enough, which so far we have done, for the most part. The tournament is the same. New arenas, weird travel, yadada. If at your B game you can still get it done, that is who advances usually. Maybe get those few really good games in a row and make a deep run. We are 21-5 for ***** sake!
 
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I'm actually feeling pretty good about the game on Saturday even though the ESPN Matchup Predictor says we only have a 19.3% chance of winning. Last year we (i) beat Houston at home in a game we led most of the way and held on as they made it close in the second half, (ii) lost a close game on road where the margin was single-digits for nearly the whole game and we just couldn't close the gap, and (iii) blew their doors off in the rubber-match at the end of the season. Compared to last year, I'd say we're a better team overall and Houston is not quite as good. Still really good but Shead was all-world for a college guard and you can't replace a guy like that easily.
 

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I'm actually feeling pretty good about the game on Saturday even though the ESPN Matchup Predictor says we only have a 19.3% chance of winning. Last year we (i) beat Houston at home in a game we led most of the way and held on as they made it close in the second half, (ii) lost a close game on road where the margin was single-digits for nearly the whole game and we just couldn't close the gap, and (iii) blew their doors off in the rubber-match at the end of the season. Compared to last year, I'd say we're a better team overall and Houston is not quite as good. Still really good but Shead was all-world for a college guard and you can't replace a guy like that easily.
I think if we play our A game, we'll beat Houston. Anything less than that and Houston probably wins. They're damn good again.
 
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I agree with you about the performance against the also rans, but also with that goes when competition steps up and the pressure and the attention skyrockets what will this team do?

We haven't played a game like since Mom's been back. This Saturday will tell us if this team is ready to take that "next step" because if you can't do that in this spot then I don't they ever will.

They could play elite and still lose the game which I'm OK with just as long I see that it's in them and it's close. If that happens then I'll be a full believer that this will be a magical ending.
The team before Momcilovic went out looks pretty much identical to the team after he's gotten back (except turnovers, which started to really show up while he was out). The return has been pretty seamless IMO. Just need to slow down a beat and execute better, and these guys have shown themselves to be capable of that throughout last year and the first half of this one.
 

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Maybe I'm overly critical because my expectations are so high but I would probably feel better is we had at least one instance of this team putting it all together and playing elite. Instead we have a bunch of pretty good.

To get to the FF and CCG pretty good probably isn't going to cut it. I'm hopeful you're right and they will dial it in but chances are running out.
There were a lot of similar comments during the FB season across the message boards too. I tend to think the hallmark of a great team is that they don't have to be elite in all facets to win night-in-night-out. They're great because if some parts are off for a game, victory is still attainable. 'Putting it all together' is a near-impossible benchmark for any team.

Take Florida, who has two wins against #1 teams this season. In their rout of Tennessee they shot 40% overall and 30% from deep. Against Auburn they gave up 15 ORebs for 22 second chance points. Yes these are some hand-picked examples, but it shows that an elite game is does not have to be 'putting it all together.'
 
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Hehe. Struck a nerve? Good for you to get out of your Rainbows and Unicorn outlook and see the otherside of grounded expectations.

Not true I really felt like we were going to beat KSU instead we got kicked in the nuts.

Bragging about how annoying you are is a really weird "flex"...