***Official 2018-19 Transfer Thread***

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They should all sit out a transfer year. That would put an end to the charade. I have a lot more respect for Mike Daum's choice than Mike Mooney. We shall see which benefited himself the most.
You can respect both decisions, but one guy made a very wise decision and is now playing for a National Title, the other lost in the opening round of the NIT.
 

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That's a cop-out. Daum stayed with his school, teammates, coach, student body. Mooney went all 'me' on USD. I respect Daum's choice more.


So you think Transfering is going "All Me"? That might be the most ridiculous statement ever. Not only that but did you think he went all me when he transferred from his first school also?
 
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That's a cop-out. Daum stayed with his school, teammates, coach, student body. Mooney went all 'me' on USD. I respect Daum's choice more.
Yeah, shame on him for wanting to challenge himself and capitalize on the opportunity to play with and beat the best players and teams. Shame on anybody who wants to give themselves a better situation in life.
 
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So you think Transfering is going "All Me"? That might be the most ridiculous statement ever. Not only that but did you think he went all me when he transferred from his first school also?
Lard leaving ISU is quite different than Mooney leaving USD or Daum staying at SDSU, yes, I agree.
 

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Yeah, shame on him for wanting to challenge himself and capitalize on the opportunity to play with and beat the best players and teams. Shame on anybody who wants to give themselves a better situation in life.
Shame on him for leaving his school, teammates, fellow students, coach, et al to chase his own personal agenda. There are all sorts of ways to argue that point. I only said I respected Daum's choice more than Mooney's. I didn't say Mooney is a bad dude. I also believe the grad transfer thing has to change or chaos awaits.
 

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Shame on him for leaving his school, teammates, fellow students, coach, et al to chase his own personal agenda. There are all sorts of ways to argue that point. I only said I respected Daum's choice more than Mooney's. I also believe the grad transfer thing has to change or chaos awaits.
do you feel the same when a coach leaves a school? What chaos awaits?
 

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A very high majority of the time the "bigger" school is gaining advantage in a grad transfer situation. A school like ISU is more likely to receive the grad transfer than to lose him. Even in a non-grad transfer situation ISU usually comes out on top of a guy leaving. Who is the last guy to leave ISU and go to a better place? Wes Johnson? Maybe Clayton Custer only because of Loyola's Tournament run last year.
Wes Johnson or the guy who transferred to Memphis (Taggart I think) and played for Callipari.
 

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That's a false analogy and always has been. Coaching is a profession. People leave jobs all the time to improve their position in life. Professors are not criticized for moving from Morningside to Iowa State.

And regular students aren't criticized for that, either. Just college athletes, which makes it an apt comparison for a backwards situation.
 

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That's a false analogy and always has been. Coaching is a profession. People leave jobs all the time to improve their position in life. Professors are not criticized for moving from Morningside to Iowa State.
So what if I as a student who isnt an athlete wanted to transfer to improve my position in life?
 

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Shame on him for leaving his school, teammates, fellow students, coach, et al to chase his own personal agenda. There are all sorts of ways to argue that point. I only said I respected Daum's choice more than Mooney's. I didn't say Mooney is a bad dude. I also believe the grad transfer thing has to change or chaos awaits.
Do you feel the same when a player leaves for the NBA?
 

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Shame on him for leaving his school, teammates, fellow students, coach, et al to chase his own personal agenda. There are all sorts of ways to argue that point. I only said I respected Daum's choice more than Mooney's. I didn't say Mooney is a bad dude. I also believe the grad transfer thing has to change or chaos awaits.

But he didn't leave his coach. His coach left for another job, remember?

I think Daum and Mooney both did what they thought was right for them. Respect to Daum for seeing things through at USD, and respect to Mooney for taking a chance on the unknown.

How much more chaotic could things get? The grad transfer market is booming every year and the game has yet to collapse in on itself. I think it makes things a little tougher on coaches trying to figure out their rosters and how many scholarships they'll have available, but that's why they get paid the big bucks. I don't mind players having a little freedom of mobility if they've earned enough credits to graduate. Certainly keeps things interesting in the offseason.
 

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That's a false analogy and always has been. Coaching is a profession. People leave jobs all the time to improve their position in life. Professors are not criticized for moving from Morningside to Iowa State

To a lot of these student athletes this is the same situation. They are leaving to "improve their position in life" via better fit with a team, or be more draftable after college. An example would be Shayok for us this year. I know his wasn't a grad transfer, but he changed teams to be a better fit with his scoring ability.
 

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Shame on him for leaving his school, teammates, fellow students, coach, et al to chase his own personal agenda. There are all sorts of ways to argue that point. I only said I respected Daum's choice more than Mooney's. I didn't say Mooney is a bad dude. I also believe the grad transfer thing has to change or chaos awaits.
You must really hate “1 and done” players. So selfish they would leave their team and school for $$$.
 

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Does a regular student have teammates, a coach, scholarship, investment, student body following, et al?

No but again if I were to transfer jobs I would be leaving my engineering team, boss, retirement, and considerable investment the company has made in me, yet you would say I was trying to "improve my position in life" and let it be?
 

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They should all sit out a transfer year. That would put an end to the charade. I have a lot more respect for Mike Daum's choice than Mike Mooney. We shall see which benefited himself the most.
Yikes. After this year they aren't even really that comparable anymore, especially if Tech wins tonight.

Mike Daum didn't get much national attention this year despite scoring 3000+ career points and didn't make the Tournament.

Matt Mooney, not Mike Mooney as you stated, is playing for a Title in like 5 hours.
 

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