NY Post says West Virginia to the Big 12

[jbhtexas]

But what's the alternative for them? The big east will probably no longer be a BCS conference in a few years even if they stay. Even if they do, the travel is about to go way up with some of the schools they were talking about inviting (boise, air force, houston, etc.. travel was\is about to go WAY up in the big east). Theyre never going to get an ACC invite (they dont fit the ACC profile), the SEC is done expanding with Mizzou, And the big 10 has zero interest either. We are the only option they really have.

Sadly, they don't appear to have one.

Maybe the Big 12 adds Louisville, Cincy, or ND to help WVU out a little bit.

MU to the SEC east is just about as bad. I just don't see these models being financially sustainable for schools that aren't UT, tOSU, LSU, etc.

 

[Im4State]

So apparently the Big 12 is the only conference concerned with adding teams to improve the quality of product they put out. By adding TCU and WVU we would have added to schools with excellent recent football success but minimal new market value as far as TV's go. For the record, I like that.

I do think this may be the first domino to fall in a series of three defections to our league though and it has been mentioned this move makes a lot of sense if 'Ville and Cincy bridge the geographical gap.

Pablo, you are full of crap. haha jk

It's true, I think that Mizzooooo is gone and will get worked in SEC just like ATM. good for them call us in 2014 and let us know how that's working for ya.

Cincy is not a great add but I like the Ville. WV appears to be the second domino Neinas is going to knock over (TCU the first).

 

[awd4cy]

Cause travel matters.

Signed
Mizzou (who yes is about to join the Southeastern Conference. Missouri is neither South nor Eastern.)

Let alone they could be joining the SEC east.

 

[kberyldial]

Source: Big 12 could accept West Virginia as early as Tuesday - ESPN

ESPN can't be left out of the fun. Their usual quote "as early as Tuesday" - and as late sometime after Tuesday.

 

[CycloneErik]

Sadly, they don't appear to have one.

Maybe the Big 12 adds Louisville, Cincy, or ND to help WVU out a little bit.

MU to the SEC east is just about as bad. I just don't see these models being financially sustainable for schools that aren't UT, tOSU, LSU, etc.

I agree. At some point, the TV bubble that makes it sound sustainable to some of these schools is going to burst, because there has to be an upper limit to TV's ability and willingness to throw money around.
Once that bubble bursts, and this model is fully unsustainable, what will the effect of that bursting be? Somebody is going to lose. My first guess is that the student-athletes who actually can fit that term are the ones to lose before anyone else.

But overall, the student-athletes don't matter that much when we're considering college sports. Just make some money while you can.

 

[sdillon500]

Sadly, they don't appear to have one.

Maybe the Big 12 adds Louisville, Cincy, or ND to help WVU out a little bit.

MU to the SEC east is just about as bad. I just don't see these models being financially sustainable for schools that aren't UT, tOSU, LSU, etc.

I think if the Big XII adds WVU, they're almost forced to add Louisville & Cincinnati. The conference can't leave WVU out on an island with no school closer than 800 miles.

 

[CrossCyed]

Joe Schad says West Virginia is coming no matter what Mizzou does.

 

[DesertClone1]

I think if the Big XII adds WVU, they're almost forced to add Louisville & Cincinnati. The conference can't leave WVU out on an island with no school closer than 800 miles.

Exactly, this is a great day for the big 12.
Still scratching my head at ND, just don't know if the Big 12 should trust them to join fully.

 

[19210]

Joe Schad says West Virginia is coming no matter what Mizzou does.

That's the way it should be. The conference shouldn't be held over the barrel by any one team. Be proactive and get West Virginia now the other schools can vote if they want Mizzou to stay or go.

I say kick them to the curb, but that's just my mentality when people think they are too good to be replaced.

 

[Clonefan94]

Absolutely...and they'll get what they want. They have a open B1G invite, while the Big East was willing to take them WITHOUT football. Now that the BE might not have football much longer, they're shopping around. They'll get at least as good of a deal as they have now.

I don't think ND to the Big 12 amounts to anything. But it is kind of interesting:

If this deal were going down in the B1G, ND AD Swarbrick would be dealing with Delaney. In the Pac 12, it would be Larry Scott. In the SEC, it would be Slive.

In the Big 12, who's doing the legwork on negotiation with ND? DeLoss Dodds. I know, I know...they're old friends. Good thing you can count on Dodds to act in the best interests of the Big 12...every time.

Shouldn't this be something the conference commissioner is leading?

Is there any way you can possibly keep your Mizzoutifications to threads about Mizzou? I come in here to read about WVU joining the Big XII and get greeted once again by your ramblings in justifying your team leaving the Big XII. I'm beginning to think, with your persistence, that you actually don't believe what you post, you are hoping one of us will back you up and give you confidence in the move. Please, there are plenty of places other than this to talk about Missouri.

 

[CloneState1028]

Am I the only one that doesn't distance as much of a big deal as others? For example, if you have to get on a plane to travel, what difference does it make if you're traveling 800 miles or 500?

 

[LutherClone]

So assuming Mizzou goes, that will mean "rivalry weekend" in the Big XII is going to get shaken up. Maybe like this:

UT/TTU
OU/OSU
KU/KSU
BU/TCU
ISU/WVU

It's too bad that our budding Farmageddon rivarly with K-State will get pushed up. I don't think it will diminish that game, but just changes the platform. The "Sister Stadium Showdown" just doesn't get me going like Farmageddon.

 

[Mizzoulander]

That's the way it should be. The conference shouldn't be held over the barrel by any one team. Be proactive and get West Virginia now the other schools can vote if they want Mizzou to stay or go.

I say kick them to the curb, but that's just my mentality when people think they are too good to be replaced.

Nobody's holding anybody over a barrel...and nobody thinks that MU is too good to be replaced. The Big 12 wouldn't add an eleventh team without knowing that Mizzou is gone.

This is a GOOD thing. Until this month, nobody's been added to this conference in 15 years! WVU is going to be a solid addition for FB and BB. Until now, nobody cared about the Big 12 anywhere on the east coast. They will now.

The only negatives are distance (nothing you can do about that, but it's more about getting the teams you want) and academics (never really the Big 12's reason for existence anyway).

Only question left is when they start playing.

 

[peachy]

First, there are going to 12 teams and eventually 14 in all likelihood.

Every single one of them SHOULD want to play Notre Dame under any circumstance. Even if you lose, you win. Throw in the fact that they are the ultimate paper tiger the last dozen years, and it's potentially GREAT.

Notre Dame will be the one that never allows it, because they would never suffer a loss to ISU or K-State. They can deal with a loss to OU or Texas, but never ISU.

The last 5 years ND has lost to traditional powerhouses Navy, Tulsa, UConn, Syracuse, Pitt, and Air Force. I'm pretty sure they could handle a loss to K-State or ISU. Even ND fans know their program is not once what it was.

 

[Clonehomer]

Joe Schad says West Virginia is coming no matter what Mizzou does.

But, if the Big12 takes WVU that'll pretty much force the SEC's hand to add Missourah. There aren't that many options left if they want to expand their footprint. Before, it was always Missourah or WVU. If one is suddenly no longer available, you've got to make sure you have the other.

 

[CrossCyed]

But, if the Big12 takes WVU that'll pretty much force the SEC's hand to add Missourah. There aren't that many options left if they want to expand their footprint. Before, it was always Missourah or WVU. If one is suddenly no longer available, you've got to make sure you have the other.

I totally expect Mizzou to leave too.

 

[Daserop]

Joe Schad says West Virginia is coming no matter what Mizzou does.

I just block out whatever comes out of that mans mouth.

 

[Wesley]

NO!!!! They make NO sense geographically. You have to drive through IL, IN, and OH just to get there. How much sense does that make?

Just fly.

 

[IcSyU]

So assuming Mizzou goes, that will mean "rivalry weekend" in the Big XII is going to get shaken up. Maybe like this:

UT/TTU
OU/OSU
KU/KSU
BU/TCU
ISU/WVU

It's too bad that our budding Farmageddon rivarly with K-State will get pushed up. I don't think it will diminish that game, but just changes the platform. The "Sister Stadium Showdown" just doesn't get me going like Farmageddon.

Couches, dumpsters, etc. are all shaking in their boots right now.

Even ND fans know their program is not once what it was.

You obviously don't know many Notre Dame fans. Those crazy bastards still think everything is supposed to be perfect in South Bend.

 

[Mizzoulander]

Absolutely...and they'll get what they want. They have a open B1G invite, while the Big East was willing to take them WITHOUT football. Now that the BE might not have football much longer, they're shopping around. They'll get at least as good of a deal as they have now.

I don't think ND to the Big 12 amounts to anything. But it is kind of interesting:

If this deal were going down in the B1G, ND AD Swarbrick would be dealing with Delaney. In the Pac 12, it would be Larry Scott. In the SEC, it would be Slive.

In the Big 12, who's doing the legwork on negotiation with ND? DeLoss Dodds. I know, I know...they're old friends. Good thing you can count on Dodds to act in the best interests of the Big 12...every time.

Shouldn't this be something the conference commissioner is leading?

Is there any way you can possibly keep your Mizzoutifications to threads about Mizzou? I come in here to read about WVU joining the Big XII and get greeted once again by your ramblings in justifying your team leaving the Big XII. I'm beginning to think, with your persistence, that you actually don't believe what you post, you are hoping one of us will back you up and give you confidence in the move. Please, there are plenty of places other than this to talk about Missouri.

This isn't a thread about Missouri...and my post never even mentioned Missouri. The thread talked about ND to the Big 12, and I asked a question about how that negotiation worked (and who's leading it).

Did you respond to the wrong post or something?