NY Post says West Virginia to the Big 12
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First, there are going to 12 teams and eventually 14 in all likelihood.
Every single one of them SHOULD want to play Notre Dame under any circumstance. Even if you lose, you win. Throw in the fact that they are the ultimate paper tiger the last dozen years, and it's potentially GREAT.
Notre Dame will be the one that never allows it, because they would never suffer a loss to ISU or K-State. They can deal with a loss to OU or Texas, but never ISU.
Because they would have their cake and be able to eat it too, primarily. That's the Notre Dame way - we are so elite that we get special treatment. Those days are slowly unraveling on them and the Big12 is positioning itself to catch them should that day come.
They want "independence" but they need a place to park their olympic sports and it's either this or the Catholic League for Wayward Boys and Girls, which they really don't want. I could also see them going for the ACC under certain scenarios as well.
With each passing day and the more information gets out, the more foolish and rash MU looks.
Michigan, Michigan State and Purdue are the BigTen traditional games. I think they have also played USC, Stanford, Navy and Pitt annually for a long time.
ND played South Florida for the exposure in FLORIDA, I don't really think they are that worried about exposure in Iowa.
I'm not a fan of the league extending ND all sports other than football but if it helps the value of the TV contracts and in some way makes it more likely for Texas & OU to stay we pretty much have to be for it.
I'm not a fan of the league extending ND all sports other than football but if it helps the value of the TV contracts and in some way makes it more likely for Texas & OU to stay we pretty much have to be for it.
Absolutely...and they'll get what they want. They have a open B1G invite, while the Big East was willing to take them WITHOUT football. Now that the BE might not have football much longer, they're shopping around. They'll get at least as good of a deal as they have now.
I don't think ND to the Big 12 amounts to anything. But it is kind of interesting:
If this deal were going down in the B1G, ND AD Swarbrick would be dealing with Delaney. In the Pac 12, it would be Larry Scott. In the SEC, it would be Slive.
In the Big 12, who's doing the legwork on negotiation with ND? DeLoss Dodds. I know, I know...they're old friends. Good thing you can count on Dodds to act in the best interests of the Big 12...every time.
Shouldn't this be something the conference commissioner is leading?
That's because the SEC is the new shiny toy and MU fans realize a BIG invite is not going to happen.
How do you know it isn't the conference commissioner doing it? Do you have an inside source?
Speaking of inside sources Bob Fescoe says the reason there is a delay it's because SEC doesn't have the votes yet to accept MU.
Whatever Missouri is going to end up doing should mean nothing. The Big 12 needs to be proactive and get these schools. Admit WVU, Louisville, and Cincinnati from the Big East. If the Notre Dame rumors are credible, go after the Irish hard. With all this conference expansion, I doubt their independent status is going to last much longer.If we want to expand to 16 and be the first "super conference" go after Rutgers and Uconn. It makes no sense geographically, but it destroys the Big East, and stops the ACC and the BIG from expanding. Also, if Missouri leaves and we are trying for 16 teams, let's go after Houston. Decent football team, not that great of basketball, but they did have phi slamma jamma in the 80's!
Notre Dame's tv contract with NBC expires in 2015. If they don't sniff a BCS bowl in that time don't expect NBC to roll it out again. Ebersol is gone and they will likely turn over Kelly in this time frame. They will have to seriously consider the Big 10 as the Big East implodes. I guarantee you they will not join any other conference in football. Never. They will limp along in the Big East for the other sports as long as need be. The games against the service academies are as outdated as your grandfather and they can't even win them on a consistent basis. Times will change for them like everyone else but I don't think it will ever be in the Big 12.
We are very fortunate right now. The Big East going away actually stabilizes everything once their football schools land in the ACC and Big 12. Alot of teams get swept to the side (S. Florida, etc.), but ISU made it.
MitchVingle Mitch Vingle
Confirmed. WVU to Big 12 is a done deal. There will be a press conference with the Big 12 folks tomorrow. The long wait/mess is over...
(Mitch Vingle is the Charleston (WV) Gazette sports editor)
Confirmed. WVU to Big 12 is a done deal. There will be a press conference with the Big 12 folks tomorrow. The long wait/mess is over...
(Mitch Vingle is the Charleston (WV) Gazette sports editor)
That's not the point.
ISU doesn't travel the distance from Ames to Austin for every single away conference game for every sport. There are conference teams much closer. The trips to Kansas are about 400 miles. The trips to OK are about 600 miles.
The minimum distance that WVU will be traveling for conference games in the Big 12 would be 850 to Ames. The trips to KS will be 900 miles, the trips to OK will be 1000 miles, and the trips to TX will be 1,200 miles. It's a ridiculous waste of time and resources, but it looks like a done deal.
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The distance thing for the student athletes is somewhat overrated. If you are putting the kids on a plane, 800 or 1000 miles is of little difference. But it would be a huge deal for traveling contingents of fans.
But what's the alternative for them? The big east will probably no longer be a BCS conference in a few years even if they stay. Even if they do, the travel is about to go way up with some of the schools they were talking about inviting (boise, air force, houston, etc.. travel was\is about to go WAY up in the big east). Theyre never going to get an ACC invite (they dont fit the ACC profile), the SEC is done expanding with Mizzou, And the big 10 has zero interest either. We are the only option they really have.
