murderer and weapon found!
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Murder implies there was intent to kill.
There is no way they charge him with murder.
Even manslaughter will probably be tough.
There is no way they charge him with murder.
Even manslaughter will probably be tough.
high rate of speed+leaving scene=murder(in my book).
this dudes intent is found in his departure from the scene. it is a very easy case.
Sorry, but your book does not count. We go by the book of law.
I highly doubt the charges would be murder. Manslaughter seems most likely. I wasn't there, so I really don't know, but my guess is that it was an accident followed by a really poor decision to flee the scene.
tell that to the family. pretty sure he is not coming home.
if, as police reports indicate, he murdered Mark by his excessive speed, reckless 'accident', then attempted to cover his crime up by leaving. that speaks to murder, not manslaugher. the really nice thing for the muderer is, he has had more than several days to come up with a story, cover up evidence, and enjoy life. Kinda different than what the victim and his family have been doing since last week.
Voluntary manslaughter at the very least. It's not like he stopped to see if the guy was ok...or stopped at all to get involuntary manslaughter. Who knows, unless the cyclist died immediately, stopping and calling an ambulance may have saved the cyclist's life thus the difference between an accident (involuntary) and voluntary.
A lot of things to deal with here: The guy is 75 years old, some sort of medical condition maybe. Poor eyesight and didn't see the biker, Sun in his eyes. I'm not siding with the old guy, but until we hear how it actually happened, it's difficult to pass judgment.Look at the guy on I-80 a few weeks ago that was going the north in the south bound lanes. The guy had a diabetic condition. I will say if the guy is found guilty it probably should be manslaughter charges as leaving the scene of an accident, failure to render aid to the injured, speeding or wreckless driving charges. Tough situation to be in right now. Makes you wonder what the old guy was thinking all the time that this was being run in the news.
Just because he's not coming home doesn't mean it was a murder. Honestly the guy is 75 years old anyway, it doesn't have to be a murder conviction for him to effectively have a life sentence.
As pride said, it was likely an accident followed by a terrible decision to flee the scene. God knows I've been sleepy and sped on back roads. Not saying what happened is alright or justifying it, I'm just saying it's not murder. Plus, unless the guy is a sociopath who sped up and swerved to kill the guy I highly doubt he's been enjoying life over the last week.
As pride said, it was likely an accident followed by a terrible decision to flee the scene. God knows I've been sleepy and sped on back roads. Not saying what happened is alright or justifying it, I'm just saying it's not murder. Plus, unless the guy is a sociopath who sped up and swerved to kill the guy I highly doubt he's been enjoying life over the last week.
No, that's not intent. That's leaving the scene of an accident. Intent means he had a motive to kill the guy, and he attempted (or succeeded) to do so.
It's highly unlikely that the dude ever met the guy he killed, let alone had reason to kill him.
Excessive speed does not rise to the level of murder. That specific charge would be vehicular manslaughter, but even to get to that level, you have to have been racing or doing something reckless other than simply speeding - generally racing. That is the same charge, by the way, that you would be charged with if you killed someone while impaired.
The law is what it is. Unless there is something more sinister going on here, the bicyclist wasn't murdered.
I believe, always believe there is something more sinister. Always. It is good we aren't going by my book as another poster mentioned. I believe(know) that drinking and driving is attempted muder and needs to be charged as suc.
Driving a car has a higher call of duty. The ******** excuse making club here on CF(he is 75, he is a diabetic, sun) is reducing this guys duty...and his crime.
One time...one tme charge someone with the crime that they have committed and things change. You guys can call it whatever you want: he is a murderer. He willfully drove with medical conditions at excessive speeds. Kinda willful and obvious that he knowingly was willing to put others at risk...and he murdered via his arrogance.
Twist this however you elect...fact remains this guy willfully killed, then tried hiding his crime. Let me know when those facts change.
