Oh dear God, I may go back down to like 50 posts with my persona. Of course I am thinking about seeing a professional in my field, I have been agreeing with 22 way too much lately.
Go Spurs
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Mods over-reaching?
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Oh dear God, I may go back down to like 50 posts with my persona. Of course I am thinking about seeing a professional in my field, I have been agreeing with 22 way too much lately.
Go Spurs
I must say I appreciate the mods seem receptive to criticism. On another forum (neither ISU nor sports related) I had a similar complaint where there was a lot of inconsistency with the deletion of threads. When I mentioned this in a post (with a photo from "1984") the post was deleted and I got a PM that said I wasn't able to criticize the powers that be publicly. I was told to PM the moderator in the future. When I did PM her, the only reply was "If you don't like the way I run it, then leave." So I did.
I received an email solicitation the other day for performance-improvement books or something of the like. When I paged to the bottom, I noted that it had been sent to me by a "screen name" that I recognized from here. I've always enjoyed that person's postings on this site, so I said nothing at the time and I'm not naming them now, but I don't desire unsolicited email advertisements. Unless I agreed to such on the "user agreement" when I signed up for this site, it might be over-reaching for a mod / member to access the member lists for the purpose of sending advertisement / solicitation emails. JMHO. Not a big deal, but while we're airing concerns...
My favorite "mod moment" was when I was slapped with an infraction because I said that "the offensive line blocked like a bunch of ______ (a female body part or short name for a cat!)" And Jeremy and other mods said it was uncalled for, but I still have my beautiful infraction listed on my account. It is my reminder of how bad the offensive line was last year.
Run screens? Are you kidding? Meyer didn't have that kind of protection last year. As far as I can tell you need at least 3 good seconds to run a decent screen and he was tasting dirt after a 2 count... (this is sarcasm for those that may want to question my ability to discern what happened with the offense last year :rolleyes5cz
I think sending a message to Jeremy would be much more effective than complaining about it here in public. Or even to a mod that you do trust and they'll pass it on. I've mentioned some issues I've had in the past a few times privately and they were probably taken care of privately not out in the open like this.
I'll agree there is a mod or 2 that seems to be on a power trip at times or doesn't follow the rules themselves that they are here to enforce but trying to call it out like this is not going to get you far.
I'll agree there is a mod or 2 that seems to be on a power trip at times or doesn't follow the rules themselves that they are here to enforce but trying to call it out like this is not going to get you far.
What??? Now we have to send every post to Jeremy?? And then he decides which forum to post it in if it's appropriate??
Wow, this could create some lag!!
Good luck Jeremy!! :wink0st:
Ummmmm, okkkkkkk... Was just saying that if someone has a problem with how his/her posts are being moderated Jeremy would be the guy you probably would want to let know and not air it out here and make a big show out of it. :rolleyes5cz:
One thing people need to remember is that moderation is a double-edged sword. While one person thinks something is appropriate, others don't and vice-versa. We as mods get PMs and emails saying that something should be deleted or something shouldn't be deleted when the content is really the same
I guess it's all up to human interpretation but we try to be as liberal as we can. If I was going to be strong-handed, I would have banned all of you that stated you were republicans in the political affiliation thread:laugh8kb: Now there's a group of people that needs to be silences:wink0st:
Anyways, feel free to PM me or other mods if you feel something should or shouldn't be deleted. Like C.John said, everything is still accessible by us so we know who is or isn't deleting certain posts and decisions can be reversed.
I guess it's all up to human interpretation but we try to be as liberal as we can. If I was going to be strong-handed, I would have banned all of you that stated you were republicans in the political affiliation thread:laugh8kb: Now there's a group of people that needs to be silences:wink0st:
Anyways, feel free to PM me or other mods if you feel something should or shouldn't be deleted. Like C.John said, everything is still accessible by us so we know who is or isn't deleting certain posts and decisions can be reversed.
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One thing I would like to mention is that it's not just a power-tripping mod that is out to get to you. As mods, we actually have a forum to go to and talk with each other over what we think needs to be done. As it turns out, some mods are more active than others, and they tend to be the ones who come down on people the most. But things don't just happen without consulting the rest of us.
so ... all of them are out to get us ?!?! :baffled5wh:
this is not going to help my paranoia:laugh8kb:
This statement offends me. Who do I go to if I think Jeremy is out of line?? Al Gore, Creator of the Internet?? :rofl8yi:
brianhos: I have dibbs on cobbty.
I've conversed with a couple members today about a thread in which they were getting a little out of hand. I conveyed this type of message to them and it seemed to go well. So I will expound upon it here to give a better understanding from my point of view.
In a perfect world, every member would only debate/discuss the issues in a given thread, instead of discussion turning into more of a personal one. Personal digs at others (subtle or otherwise) doesn't go very far toward proving a point and maintaining a solid debate.
However, this isn't a perfect world and none of us are - perfect. We all make mistakes and get sidetracked. It happens. When discussions gets derailed toward one that would go against the rules/principles of CF - no matter how subtle, they often spiral south rather quick.
As moderators, it is our job to mitigate these things from happening. It is a judgment call sometimes and could go either way. We discuss them and try to take the most appropriate action in a timely manner. Wait too long and the damage is done – then the entire thread may need to go. That’s a route we like to stay away from.
A mod takes public action (post editing, posting reminders/warnings, etc.) and suddenly we're mean people that have power-trip issues. In reality, our goal is to maintain a board where members can participate in various debates/discussions and all feel welcome to express their opinions without being chastised in the process. And, many of us are still new to this game. Keep in mind CF hasn’t been around forever. The moderating team, just as the site – continues to grow and evolve.
As noted in this thread, perhaps we need to send members more personal messages rather than just editing posts. It is far more time consuming to do this and sometimes the doesn't help matters - but only escalates them. Other times though, it smoothes things out. Damned if ya do, damned if ya don't.
As far as not being able to see a deletion or who did it - sometimes we hit the wrong buttons. I know of at least one case where I did that (just last week) and realized it after it was too late. We have a few options when editing posts/threads and I've caught myself a few times hitting the wrong one.
As noted, if you find a post to be out of line or close to it, use the report post function. It's sent to a mod board where we discuss them and decide what action to take. We've never been critical of members using this feature - we encourage it as it helps us out.
If you disagree with how a post was moderated, by all means contact that moderator. I personally welcome this, I'd like to know where you are coming from. What I don't appreciate and won't receive well, are the venom-laden responses to having something you posted moderated. If you want to discuss it, we can do so as adults. Otherwise you likely won't get the response/action you are seeking. Contrary to some beliefs, I nor any other mod is out to get anyone. If I enjoyed fighting with people rather than discussing the topics at hand, I’d be in politics!
I also saw something here about inconsistency with what is allowed to stay and what isn’t. This board sees a lot of activity – more than the other Cyclone boards combined. While that is fantastic and I hope it continues, it’s very hard for us to see and thoroughly read each and every post. So again, please use the report post function when you see something you feel needs addressed.
Hopefully that clears some things up or maybe it muddied the waters for you. I’d be more than happy to discuss these things with you in a civil manner at any time – just PM me.
Thanks in advance for your cooperation.
In a perfect world, every member would only debate/discuss the issues in a given thread, instead of discussion turning into more of a personal one. Personal digs at others (subtle or otherwise) doesn't go very far toward proving a point and maintaining a solid debate.
However, this isn't a perfect world and none of us are - perfect. We all make mistakes and get sidetracked. It happens. When discussions gets derailed toward one that would go against the rules/principles of CF - no matter how subtle, they often spiral south rather quick.
As moderators, it is our job to mitigate these things from happening. It is a judgment call sometimes and could go either way. We discuss them and try to take the most appropriate action in a timely manner. Wait too long and the damage is done – then the entire thread may need to go. That’s a route we like to stay away from.
A mod takes public action (post editing, posting reminders/warnings, etc.) and suddenly we're mean people that have power-trip issues. In reality, our goal is to maintain a board where members can participate in various debates/discussions and all feel welcome to express their opinions without being chastised in the process. And, many of us are still new to this game. Keep in mind CF hasn’t been around forever. The moderating team, just as the site – continues to grow and evolve.
As noted in this thread, perhaps we need to send members more personal messages rather than just editing posts. It is far more time consuming to do this and sometimes the doesn't help matters - but only escalates them. Other times though, it smoothes things out. Damned if ya do, damned if ya don't.
As far as not being able to see a deletion or who did it - sometimes we hit the wrong buttons. I know of at least one case where I did that (just last week) and realized it after it was too late. We have a few options when editing posts/threads and I've caught myself a few times hitting the wrong one.
As noted, if you find a post to be out of line or close to it, use the report post function. It's sent to a mod board where we discuss them and decide what action to take. We've never been critical of members using this feature - we encourage it as it helps us out.
If you disagree with how a post was moderated, by all means contact that moderator. I personally welcome this, I'd like to know where you are coming from. What I don't appreciate and won't receive well, are the venom-laden responses to having something you posted moderated. If you want to discuss it, we can do so as adults. Otherwise you likely won't get the response/action you are seeking. Contrary to some beliefs, I nor any other mod is out to get anyone. If I enjoyed fighting with people rather than discussing the topics at hand, I’d be in politics!
I also saw something here about inconsistency with what is allowed to stay and what isn’t. This board sees a lot of activity – more than the other Cyclone boards combined. While that is fantastic and I hope it continues, it’s very hard for us to see and thoroughly read each and every post. So again, please use the report post function when you see something you feel needs addressed.
Hopefully that clears some things up or maybe it muddied the waters for you. I’d be more than happy to discuss these things with you in a civil manner at any time – just PM me.
Thanks in advance for your cooperation.
Dude you've posted here over 7000 times in a little over the year of CF existance... Either you are too busy writing long posts like the one you just did that you miss other ones or it means you probably read nearly every post here because you are constantly posting in nearly every thread so you probably don't miss many.
I don't think people are upset about being moderated if it's called for but when something fairly tame is deleted then other crap in the same thread or in another that should have been deleted was left alone that's not cool. There are some people I think that may feel they have an undeserved for "reputation" which is why they get things deleted or some people get preferential treatment and can get away with more because of the same thing. That's the lack of consistenty I think some people are mentioning.
I don't think people are upset about being moderated if it's called for but when something fairly tame is deleted then other crap in the same thread or in another that should have been deleted was left alone that's not cool. There are some people I think that may feel they have an undeserved for "reputation" which is why they get things deleted or some people get preferential treatment and can get away with more because of the same thing. That's the lack of consistenty I think some people are mentioning.
Okay, so we've had the Airing of the Grievances against the moderators. When are the Feats of Strength? :biggrin9gp:
I didn't realize that the format of CF was "moderators against everyone else." It seems that we're all here to enjoy posting and reading about the Cyclones and whatever other topics that pique our interest. That goes a whole lot better when people keep it relatively clean and don't take too many personal swipes at fellow Fanatics.
Maybe it's just me, but it seems like it makes a lot more sense to air your grievances to the moderators directly rather than creating a thread that creates animosity between the mods and the rank and file posters. Just my two cents on the issue...
I didn't realize that the format of CF was "moderators against everyone else." It seems that we're all here to enjoy posting and reading about the Cyclones and whatever other topics that pique our interest. That goes a whole lot better when people keep it relatively clean and don't take too many personal swipes at fellow Fanatics.
Maybe it's just me, but it seems like it makes a lot more sense to air your grievances to the moderators directly rather than creating a thread that creates animosity between the mods and the rank and file posters. Just my two cents on the issue...
I couldn't have said it any better. That has to be the gold standard of explaining things in detail
I think you hit the nail on the head though and unfortunately everybody can't be happy and it's even more unfortunate that a few people are faced with the decision of just who is happy and who isn't. But fortunately life goes on and so do the discussions.
Let's just all agree to be nice, hate the Hawks and vote Democrat. Life can only get better from following those three simple rules:biggrin9gp:
