Mizzou to SEC "inevitable and imminent"

[HFCS]

Because one benifit Missouri has to being in the B12 is the BBall tourney. Why let the state have the benifit of leaving and the benifit of the bball tourney? There is a LOT of money with that game and I see no reason to help out the hotels, etc. in Missouri.

Missouri is leaving because of money. Why not remind them of that by taking away some of that money? Their report said they would make an extra $20 mil a yr in the SEC....so lets take off the $14 mil that the state gets from the B12 bball games. The people of KC can travel to the games if they still want to watch. That's something everyone else has to do anyway.

Exactly, KU gets enough breaks. They get 3 pointers during dead balls. They don't need the tournament in their back yard.

OKC permanently. They did well with it. No reason for it to ever be in Texas unless they can prove ballpark similar attendance #s to OKC in advance. Oklahoma basketball fans put butts in the seats for two college hoops teams and an NBA team.

 

[Senolcyc]

Because one benifit Missouri has to being in the B12 is the BBall tourney. Why let the state have the benifit of leaving and the benifit of the bball tourney? There is a LOT of money with that game and I see no reason to help out the hotels, etc. in Missouri.

Missouri is leaving because of money. Why not remind them of that by taking away some of that money? Their report said they would make an extra $20 mil a yr in the SEC....so lets take off the $14 mil that the state gets from the B12 bball games. The people of KC can travel to the games if they still want to watch. That's something everyone else has to do anyway.

You're punishing the wrong people. Among them: Iowa State fans.

 

[weR138]

Exactly, KU gets enough breaks. They get 3 pointers during dead balls. They don't need the tournament in their back yard.

OKC permanently. They did well with it. No reason for it to ever be in Texas unless they can prove ballpark similar attendance #s to OKC in advance. Oklahoma basketball fans put butts in the seats for two college hoops teams and an NBA team.

Bring the tourney to DSM!!!

 

[HFCS]

You're punishing the wrong people. Among them: Iowa State fans.

So...

KC is in Missouri.

There are no Big 12 teams in Missouri.

OKC sold out the tournament when they hosted it in an NBA arena.

OKC is closer for 6 of the 9 current members.

OKC is actually still very close for KU and KSU fans.

KU already gets the refs fixing their games in lots of B12 basketball games.

But we need to keep having the tournament in KC so Kansas can have home court advantage and Iowa State fans can have an easy drive? Those are the only two reasons I can possibly see for KC over OKC.

Now if you're talking KC vs. Dallas, I think there's an argument that you sell more tickets and make more money in KC.

 

[twistedredbird]

I agree with you completely....


The big 12 should tell the state of missouri and kansas city to go to H E double hockey sticks ....


And MOVE the basketball tournament somewhere else...Anyplace except the state of missouri that is trying to destroy the big 12 conference.....

Kansas City is a KU town first, and then probably a tie for K-State and Mizzou. KU and KSU sports trump Missouri on broadcasting in that region.

Don't you people get that Kansas City metro is basically half Missouri and half Kansas?

 

[HFCS]

Kansas City is a KU town first, and then probably a tie for K-State and Mizzou. KU and KSU sports trump Missouri on broadcasting in that region.

Don't you people get that Kansas City metro is basically half Missouri and half Kansas?

OKC is half Big 12 and the other half...still Big 12. They sold out the tournament in an NBA arena.

Game. Set. Match.

OKC is closer for 6 of 9 teams, and still a close drive for the Kansas teams. Kansas has way too many breaks on the B12 court already. I'll be thrilled to move it away from them.

Dallas is just as dumb, maybe even more dumb, than still having it in KC.

 

[dtISU]

Solution: Get KCK to build an arena somewhere along the west bank of the river, if you want to appease the "nothing in Missouri" crowd.

I agree that Kansas City has vocally opposed this move by Mizzou, and shouldn't be punished for it. If you combined KU and KSU fans, they'd likely vastly outnumber MU fans in the KC metro. As others have said, Lawrence is considerably closer to KC than Columbia, and Manhattan is about the same.

Kansas City isn't driving this bus off a cliff. That's the Missouri Board of Curators who are listening to a handful of angry fans, whom after my experiences this weekend, seem to be a distinct, yet extremely vocal minority.

I grew up in Northern Missouri where, if you weren't a Big Red fan you were loyal to Mizzou. Al_4_State is right - a minority. In talking with Mizzou alums (my best friend and I can't even talk to each other during a MU-ISU football or basketball game), I can't find a single one who wants to go to the SEC. They're just all stuck on this "I hate Texas SO much" rant that they can't imagine life could be worse someplace else. They feel that they get NO respect from the BIGXII. Like a few years ago when they pounded Kansas at Arrowhead, had a better record, but KU went to the Orange Bowl. And why the hell did ISU get picked over MU a couple of years ago for the Insight Bowl? Evidently, they feel that they will be loved and respected in the SEC. In the end, every Mizzou fan I've talked to wants to stay in the BigXII, but not if Texas stays.

 

[Senolcyc]

So...
KC is in Missouri.
There are no Big 12 teams in Missouri.
OKC sold out the tournament when they hosted it in an NBA arena.
OKC is closer for 6 of the 9 current members.
OKC is actually still very close for KU and KSU fans.
KU already gets the refs fixing their games in lots of B12 basketball games.

But we need to keep having the tournament in KC so Kansas can have home court advantage and Iowa State fans can have an easy drive? Those are the only two reasons I can possibly see for KC over OKC.

Now if you're talking KC vs. Dallas, I think there's an argument that you sell more tickets and make more money in KC.

I have no problem with OKC. If it submits the best bid, it gets the tournament. Just like always.

But I'm not in favor of punitively eliminating KC from consideration. It has nothing to do with Missouri's decision (even though we know Mizzou isn't leaving, it's just a clever ruse) and KC is as officially against the SEC move as it can be. We're talking about what, 1.5 miles? If Sprint Center was located 1.5 miles west of where it is, all would be fine? That's asinine. What if tournament was still at Kemper, about 500 feet from Kansas soil. Then what?

 

[CloneIce]

Kansas City is a KU town first, and then probably a tie for K-State and Mizzou. KU and KSU sports trump Missouri on broadcasting in that region.

Don't you people get that Kansas City metro is basically half Missouri and half Kansas?

That's not true. Kansas City itself is a MU town first, KU 2nd, and KSU is a very distant third. If your in Overland Park or Olathe, yeah it is KU first, but the metro as a whole is split pretty evenly between MU and KU, with KSU a distant third. And KU and KSU sports don't trump Missouri on broadcasting in the region, they are all pretty even.

 

[SvrWxCy]

Kansas City may not get immediately eliminated from hosting conference functions but depending upon who we add they definitely have to be in consideration of losing all of their appeal. The Big 12 becomes rooted and centralized in Oklahoma much more than Kansas/Missouri if/when Mizzou leaves the conference. The Kansas City businesses have already pleaded their case to Missouri to stay in the Big 12 because they know this, their time is limited if Missouri leaves.

 

[CyBer]

Can we start an SEC chant during the next game?

 

[jbhtexas]

As if any of that really matters.

Basically, you would make a city that has been nothing but loyal to the Big 12 despite getting shaft after shaft from Texas take yet another shaft just because of one school's idiocy. Brilliant. Glad you're not a decision-maker in this conference.

I don't see why the Big 12 owes anything to Kansas City, beyond any contractual obligations that might be in place. The only entity that Kansas City is getting the shaft from in this matter is the University of Missouri. MU is basically saying "too bad" to the KC area. That's sad, but it is an internal matter for the state of Missouri.

The Big 12 needs to look at what best serves the conference, particulalry after the new schools are added. If it best serves the conference to have the BB tourneys in KC, that's great. There may very well be benefits to the conference to keep the tourney in KC. If not, move it to the most beneficial place.

Maybe Mizzou is planning to get the SEC BB tourneys moved to KC

 

[rebecacy]

You can deny it all you want, but certain twitter posters have been plenty reliable.

WHO????? Show me. Just by chance someone will be right on somethings -- show me this highly consistent reliable twit!!

The good news is, if MU goes or not, it no longer matters, the powers that be worked a plan that saved the Big Xii conference and regardless of what anyone says a solid stable conference is good for ISU. Also, There are good teams (we are debating about many of them) that will come to get us to twelve, another good thing in the long run. We have some great leadership at ISU and they have safed our ***.

 

[BooneCy]

If they go to the SEC, the state's flagship university would not be in the conference that hosts the Big 12's conference tournament. It's equivalent to Tennessee hosting the Big 10 tournament. Or Texas hosting the SEC tournament. Or Utah hosting the Pac 12 tournament. It doesn't make sense.

 

[CyBer]

WHO????? Show me.

Twitter

 

[dtISU]

WHO????? Show me.

Are you from Missouri? (Get it? The Show Me State?)

 

[Cytom5]

Put me
down for adding Tulane. I would love road trips to the Big Easy. Beats the Heck out of most of the other Big 12 places a fan would have to travel to for a road game.A man has to have his priorities....:yes:

Best friend from high school goes to xavier university in cincinnati so I would be forced to go out there for games. Dear b12 get it done

 

[weR138]

I don't see why the Big 12 owes anything to Kansas City, beyond any contractual obligations that might be in place. The only entity that Kansas City is getting the shaft from in this matter is the University of Missouri. MU is basically saying "too bad" to the KC area. That's sad, but it is an internal matter for the state of Missouri.

The Big 12 needs to look at what best serves the conference, particulalry after the new schools are added. If it best serves the conference to have the BB tourneys in KC, that's great. There may very well be benefits to the conference to keep the tourney in KC. If not, move it to the most beneficial place.

Maybe Mizzou is planning to get the SEC BB tourneys moved to KC

I agree with you and I'd love nothing better than to **** over the state of Missouri but it would be a real bummer to not be able to go to the tourney in KC. So many great memories for us (ISU fans) down there. I love KC and I just wish everything were in Kansas so we wouldn't have to touch Missouri if we didn't want to.

 

[Senolcyc]

The good news is, if MU goes or not,

No no no. Missouri is not seriously interested in the SEC. It is pretending, just like Oklahoma was pretending to be interested in the Pac 12. It's all part of the clever master plan.

 

[Al_4_State]

Can we start an SEC chant during the next game?

I'd rather chant "Big 12".