Michael Crabtree

[Clones85']

It doesn't bother me one bit what he's trying to do and I don't think any less of him for it. I've turned down a job before when the money was what I thought I was worth. However, he slipped in this years draft behind a receiver he thought he was better than......next year would only be worse. I won't feel sorry for him one bit if he screws his career.

Difference is that you weren't turning down 15 million guaranteed b/c you want 20 million guaranteed. What a joke! The guy hasn't caught a pass! He could be like Alex Smith

I hope he sits out now, b/c than he will get drafted EVEN LOWER in the 2010 draft and he will have lost out on the millions from this year plus the millions for next year.

With that said there is a 0% chance of this happening and he will have signed before preseason IMO

 

[CyTom]

If it is about money we would be further along by signing the contract where he is slotted as sitting out a year won't make you very much money vs the 7-8 million he would make in the NFL. Plus who would draft him next year with the headache of knowing they can't afford to pay what he wants. Sitting out would destroy his career and if he has an agent I'm sure that won't happen. Max pay in the UFL is $600,000 and I'm sure the 49ers are offering more than that.

 

[egami]

If I blame anyone I blame Al Davis. This is what happens when Al Davis drafts sub-par talent high in the draft and then overpays them.

 

[OWLCITYCYFAN]

If I blame anyone I blame Al Davis. This is what happens when Al Davis drafts sub-par talent high in the draft and then overpays them.

If I blame anybody, I blame the "agent" who represents these guys, along with the NFL Players Association. Nobody wins in these situations except the agent. The agent can't lose face or he risks having future players go a different direction. Meanwhile, the agents for Andre Smith, Eugene Monroe and B.J. Raji have to stand pat for fear Crabtree's agent gets the 49ers to cave.

On the NFLPA side, unproven rookies are getting paid ungodly sums while proven veterans sit home and wait for calls, hoping for one more year at a league minimum. It's in nearly everybody's best interest (except the agent ranks and the rookies) to have an NBA-like pay scale, but the union won't give an inch. Ridiculous all around...

Disclaimer: I'm a ******-off Packer fan, disappointed because Crabtree's debacle is holding B.J. Raji out of camp.

 

[egami]

If I blame anybody, I blame the "agent" who represents these guys, along with the NFL Players Association. Nobody wins in these situations except the agent. The agent can't lose face or he risks having future players go a different direction. Meanwhile, the agents for Andre Smith, Eugene Monroe and B.J. Raji have to stand pat for fear Crabtree's agent gets the 49ers to cave.

On the NFLPA side, unproven rookies are getting paid ungodly sums while proven veterans sit home and wait for calls, hoping for one more year at a league minimum. It's in nearly everybody's best interest (except the agent ranks and the rookies) to have an NBA-like pay scale, but the union won't give an inch. Ridiculous all around...

Disclaimer: I'm a ******-off Packer fan, disappointed because Crabtree's debacle is holding B.J. Raji out of camp.

At the end of the day the player has the final say. They don't have to take an agents advice. And, again, Davis' ridiculous move still provided the ammo for the agents.

Not sure NFLPA has to do with it...besides, I wouldn't be surprised to see NFLPA offer up rookie salary caps as a sacrificial lamb to get the next CBA done, but we'll see.

 

[Clonefan94]

The only thing that I think should change in this whole issue, is the way that the draft is conducted. Players should be required to state the minimum they'll work for. I'm not against crabtree looking for more money. That's his choice. I do feel bad for the teams though, that are offering a good salary, but just can't afford to go higher. And now they are stuck with a guy refusing to sign. I don't agree with rookie caps at all, but I think a player entering the draft should have to put on paper, I will play for this. That way teams know ahead of time what they are getting into.

 

[egami]

The only thing that I think should change in this whole issue, is the way that the draft is conducted. Players should be required to state the minimum they'll work for. I'm not against crabtree looking for more money. That's his choice. I do feel bad for the teams though, that are offering a good salary, but just can't afford to go higher. And now they are stuck with a guy refusing to sign. I don't agree with rookie caps at all, but I think a player entering the draft should have to put on paper, I will play for this. That way teams know ahead of time what they are getting into.

I think the one thing the NBA does right is rookie salary cap, and I think that's the best approach. Reason being, the highest paid players, by and large, are unproven rookies...even if they did what you suggested.

The minimum they'd work for is going to be based on the previous years draft. Why would they accept less? And we already precedent established now, so I don't think that would alleviate the issue, if you see what I mean.

 

[ceeboe]

The only thing that I think should change in this whole issue, is the way that the draft is conducted. Players should be required to state the minimum they'll work for. I'm not against crabtree looking for more money. That's his choice. I do feel bad for the teams though, that are offering a good salary, but just can't afford to go higher. And now they are stuck with a guy refusing to sign. I don't agree with rookie caps at all, but I think a player entering the draft should have to put on paper, I will play for this. That way teams know ahead of time what they are getting into.

So now you have a draft based on money and not talent. Forget the draft, you mind as well hold an auction...

 

[TruClone]

Go Cowboys!

Amen brother!:yes:

 

[Clonegrad07]

He'd not even be a 1st round pick if he stuck it out...

I think it's dumb. Would anyone here turn down 20 million dollars to play a game? I know I wouldn't... give me the 20 mil, I'll work my butt to get more in 5 years... Like he should.

 

[isukendall]

This is why I hate pro sports 90% of the time.

 

[richey24]

Obviously he won't go back into the draft, but if he can get the 9'ers to squeeze out a few more million then he made the right call.

 

[ceeboe]

Obviously he won't go back into the draft, but if he can get the 9'ers to squeeze out a few more million then he made the right call.

Any team can "squeeze" out a few more dollars, it's just the matter of it being practicle. Does he really desearve it, who is it benefiting except himself, and how does this help the team now or later?

One this is for certain. Crabtree is not the 49'ers WR of the future. If he's already having issues with the contract, then you know he will later too. He'll end up leaving for bigger money.

 

[richey24]

At this point he's only looking out for himself, which is exactly what he should be doing. I wouldn't expect any rookie to take less money just to help the team, football careers can be over before they begin.

 

[dmg89]

He'd not even be a 1st round pick if he stuck it out...

I think it's dumb. Would anyone here turn down 20 million dollars to play a game? I know I wouldn't... give me the 20 mil, I'll work my butt to get more in 5 years... Like he should.

I'll do whatever the **** you want me to for that kind of money.

 

[LeSchmick]

I think its interesting that people still think that "teamwork" and "the good of the team" are just as important in pro sports as they are in say high school and college. Its not people. Its a business get over it.

 

[CycoCyclone]

please explain to me what the difference between $23 million and $28 million is? Like you'd even miss it.

 

[jdoggivjc]

He really has the makings of being SF's next TO, doesn't he?

My opinion? If Crabtree can score the extra schwag, more power to him. If the 49ers decide to go without, more power to them.

 

[LeSchmick]

please explain to me what the difference between $23 million and $28 million is? Like you'd even miss it.

That'd be $5 million. A large chunk of money for both parties and both would know the difference.

 

[richey24]

please explain to me what the difference between $23 million and $28 million is? Like you'd even miss it.

About $5 million, I'm pretty sure that's a lot of money.