Michael Crabtree
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You drafted a player that hasn't signed with is team!!?? :no::no: That's a fantasy no-no!!!
Were Dan Marino, Jerry Rice or Emmit Smith already taken?
Some one beat me to Steve DeBerg!!
Hell, I drafted him - it was like in round 12 or later and I already had my receiving corps set and I had bench spots available. I figured if the guy signs he's an absolute steal at round 12, and if he doesn't, well, I didn't need him anyway...
Late rounds you still can get great players regardless of the depth of your positions. Still a bad move.
And I can also still pick up pretty good players via free agency if/when it comes time to dump Crabtree - free agency players that likely aren't going to crack my lineup anyway. Do you honestly think I'm worried about Crabtree not playing for me when I'm already sitting on Michael Turner, Clinton Portis, Beanie Wells, Roddy White, TJ Houshmandzadeh, Santonio Holmes, Chad Ochocinco and I only get to fill two RBs, two WRs, and a utility? Whichever "non-headcase" I would have picked at this point would have been sitting behind all of these players on my bench anyway - I might as well take a gamble on a headcase who has the potential to crack my lineup add crazy stats when I already know whichever scrub I might have drafted instead won't be playing ahead of any of these guys I mentioned and I might be able to pick up that very same scrub or some equivalent off of free agency later in the season if Crabtree doesn't work out for me anyway. Like I said, in my situation, it's HARDLY a bad move to shoot for the moon when I've got my starting offense and "week-off" substitutions set already anyway.
I agree with JDOGG.
Our draft goes 18 rounds with 10 teams. I already had a receiver core of Calvin Johnson, Steve Smith, Torry Holt, Antonio Bryant, Percy Harvin and Hakeem Nicks. Why not go with Crabtree on a late pick and see if he signs and makes an impact? Our draft was 3 weeks ago so if Crabtree signed shortly after our draft he still could have gotten some preseason work in with his team. Now that a few weeks have past and it is looking more like he is a total headcase, I waived him and picked up Cadillac Williams for more RB depth. The pick didn't pan out for me, but I still like taking a chance on someone like Crabtree versus picking a mediocre 3rd receiver on some random team who at best will only see playing time for me if I have major injury problems.
Our draft goes 18 rounds with 10 teams. I already had a receiver core of Calvin Johnson, Steve Smith, Torry Holt, Antonio Bryant, Percy Harvin and Hakeem Nicks. Why not go with Crabtree on a late pick and see if he signs and makes an impact? Our draft was 3 weeks ago so if Crabtree signed shortly after our draft he still could have gotten some preseason work in with his team. Now that a few weeks have past and it is looking more like he is a total headcase, I waived him and picked up Cadillac Williams for more RB depth. The pick didn't pan out for me, but I still like taking a chance on someone like Crabtree versus picking a mediocre 3rd receiver on some random team who at best will only see playing time for me if I have major injury problems.
Agree 100%. If Trabtree wont sign a contract at the going rate for his slot because he "Feels" he is worth more, than this dude is a headcase of the highest order and will only poison a locker room.
Hey Deion, child please.
He missed all of camp and doesn't know the play book. So if he did sign he would just ride the bench on both teams. Plus you need to factor the bust potential and injury factor for all player on your team. I had Trent Green in 2004 when he was a fantasy stud and drafted him again in 2005...week 1 against Cincy, gets a blast to the head and is a bust the rest of the season, some can be said for Javon Walker in the 2005 season after breaking out in 2004, another bust.
The way that I look at it is, don't bother drafting him, then when the poor schmoe who did drops him, I can pick him up if I feel like it. Simple enough.
All of which is your opinion. Just because you wouldn't draft him based on a bad experience doesn't make it a bad move, especially if your team is initially set up not to need him, and just about anyone you could pick up off of free agency will likely be as good if not better than anyone you would draft at at that pick.
How is he going to be able to afford to live the next year then? Going out, jewelry, flying across the country?
Can an agent pick up the tab?
Can an agent pick up the tab?
Opinion about him riding the bench for the 49ers. Singletary would bench him if he signs just to prove a point..that's fact. I can give you a 100 other bust and injury examples. The late rounds are for building even more depth and trade bait for the late season when playoff teams start to pull their starts and put in the second string. If you don't have these second string players late in the season...your ****ed! In 2006 LT was pulled from the last game completely, and if you didn't have his back up or another player taking 90% of the snaps...your going to lose!
I honestly think you're confusing someone who is completely basing their entire offense around the hope that Michael Crabtree signs his contract with the 49ers versus someone who was having difficulty deciding whether it was better for him to draft Crabtree or someone along the lines of Jackie Battle (who happens to be the Chief's backup running back). More than likely neither of those picks are going to give you any kind of help during the year. That being said, if Crabtree were to sign tomorrow and coach doesn't bench him for the season to prove a point, he'd end up being one of the focal points of that offense.
That being said, it's not likely he'll be on my roster for much longer. I'll just pick someone up off of free agency that is as good if not better than a player I probably would have drafted in that position anyway. That's another point I think you're missing...
I would draft J. Battle if I thought the Chiefs would lock a playoff spot by week 10-12, because Johnson and Charles would most likely be shut down completely but week 15 and 16 so Battle would become the starting back for a week or two and would then become my new starter when I'm deep ion the playoffs. That's what I'm saying, I draft a **** load of 2nd stringers and handcuffs in late rounds and sit on them until the playoffs and then I start to dump the players that are on teams that are locked for the playoffs early.
Most of those players will still be free agents by the time week 10 rolls around...
Must be nice playing in a league where every team qualifies for the playoffs. I've actually got to qualify for the playoffs before I can even worry about who's going to be in the lineup for weeks 15, 16, and 17...
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Most of those players will still be free agents by the time week 10 rolls around...
That's your opinion. If you play in big $$$ leagues or with people who have **** load of football knowledge, these players are drafted and yes...some, but very few would be available at week 10
Since 2004 I have won right around $5,000 and my worst finish was 4th in 2005...damn J. Lewis and T. Green :sad:. I think I know a little bit about this.
