Malou entering the Draft without Agent

[Gunnerclone]

He followed bad advice took some classes at a community type college in australiain to beef up his academic credenials came to abcd prep wasted a couple years went back to Australia went JUCO in California and Iowa. This is his 5th year out of high school and his fifth year since he enrolled in a post HS course. He has been lied too and screwed over for 5 years. Honestly if the NCAA screws him after a 5 year journey sleeping on the floor trying to play college ball when he could have been getting paid in Australia to do the same and get here it will be one of the saddest stories. Really feel for him. I really hope it all works out but someone should write about his journey. NCAA needs some pressure. He was scammed for 3 years he should have gone JUCO from the get go.

This is going to happen. Not because you said it, but because NCAA.

 

[VeloClone]

Goodnight moon, goodnight cow jumping over the moon, goodnight light and the red balloon

Goodnight bears, goodnight chairs. Good night kittens, goodnight mittens. Good night comb, goodnight brush, goodnight nobody, goodnight bowl full of mush.

And the quiet old lady who was whispering hush.

I'm having flashbacks. I read this to my daughter just about every night for about 2 years.

 

[67CY]

Does he have any kind of realistic chance of being drafted?

Probably has a better chance of being drafted than he does getting an ok from NCAA

 

[Cyclonic1]

Article in the Rag says it was done with Prohm's okay and maybe even encouragement just in case his eligibility is denied by the NCAA. As we have learned many times: always wear a nut-cup if you are a Cyclone dealing with the NCAA.

 

[isufbcurt]

I went to high school with a couple of people who took a few college classes starting their high school junior year. Does that mean that they would have 2 years gone from their 5 to play 4 clock before they even graduated from high school? If they aren't taking enough to be considered full time and eligible it doesn't seem like it should be enough to start their clock.

That was my next thought. Many high school kids now are taking college classes while still in High School but it doesn't affect their college clock.

 

[ribsnwhiskey]

Article in the Rag says it was done with Prohm's okay and maybe even encouragement just in case his eligibility is denied by the NCAA. As we have learned many times: always wear a nut-cup if you are a Cyclone dealing with the NCAA.

The problem is will he know his eligibility status before the draft. The NCAA likes to take its' sweet time when ISU is involved usually.

 

[IAStubborn]

That was my next thought. Many high school kids now are taking college classes while still in High School but it doesn't affect their college clock.

I believe the rule is post Graduation enrollment. Which is why hinds may have had HS graduation in his head.

 

[CyJack13]

Just taking college classes has nothing to do with your athletic eligibility. You can graduate from college without ever playing a sport, go to another school and then play four years there. Your five to play four clock starts once you begin playing a collegiate sport.

 

[isucy86]

I'm skeptical how this is being portrayed by CW, Steve Prohm, Tommy Birch, etc. I just don't see this as a fall back option in case the NCAA doesn't rule in his favor or just a logical step according to the new NBA exploratory process.

If this is part of the new norm to test his NBA draft potential, why didn't he take this step 3 weeks ago? I am skeptical this is a fall back option because I can't see the NCAA making a timely decision on his eligibility at ISU. When has the NCAA ever made a speedy decision? They jerked Drew Ott around for 5 months on what should have been a simple decision. Ott's case was Geology 101, Malou's case is physics 400 something.

the decision to is explore his NBA draft stock makes alot of sense, if it forces the NCAA to prioritize Malou's clearinghouse case so that a decision is made by late May.

If I were a betting man, it plays out this way. No NCAA decision is made by May 25. The NCAA piddles the entire summer and announces in mid-August he isn't eligible. Malou ends up playing pro ball overseas.

 

[rochclone]

Sure, if reading comprehension is a struggle for you.

Actually the exact quote in the Donovan Jackson thread was "the only people that believe that Malou is not going to make it to Iowa State are the constant 'sky is falling' posters."

I'm not sure how that quote could be misinterpreted. Lots of people on this website have inner knowledge. It might be a good idea to research their respective posting history before calling them a 'sky is falling poster'.

 

[clonedude]

If I were Prohm right now, I'd be proceeding as if Malou won't be here. This doesn't sound very promising at all. I don't know as a head coach if you can save an open scholly for someone that has probably a 20% chance of being here?

 

[Cyclonepride]

I'm skeptical how this is being portrayed by CW, Steve Prohm, Tommy Birch, etc. I just don't see this as a fall back option in case the NCAA doesn't rule in his favor or just a logical step according to the new NBA exploratory process.

If this is part of the new norm to test his NBA draft potential, why didn't he take this step 3 weeks ago? I am skeptical this is a fall back option because I can't see the NCAA making a timely decision on his eligibility at ISU. When has the NCAA ever made a speedy decision? They jerked Drew Ott around for 5 months on what should have been a simple decision. Ott's case was Geology 101, Malou's case is physics 400 something.

the decision to is explore his NBA draft stock makes alot of sense, if it forces the NCAA to prioritize Malou's clearinghouse case so that a decision is made by late May.

If I were a betting man, it plays out this way. No NCAA decision is made by May 25. The NCAA piddles the entire summer and announces in mid-August he isn't eligible. Malou ends up playing pro ball overseas.

It is a fallback option, as he wouldn't be eligible for the D league if he doesn't do this.

 

[NATEizKING]

I'm skeptical how this is being portrayed by CW, Steve Prohm, Tommy Birch, etc. I just don't see this as a fall back option in case the NCAA doesn't rule in his favor or just a logical step according to the new NBA exploratory process.

If this is part of the new norm to test his NBA draft potential, why didn't he take this step 3 weeks ago? I am skeptical this is a fall back option because I can't see the NCAA making a timely decision on his eligibility at ISU. When has the NCAA ever made a speedy decision? They jerked Drew Ott around for 5 months on what should have been a simple decision. Ott's case was Geology 101, Malou's case is physics 400 something.

the decision to is explore his NBA draft stock makes alot of sense, if it forces the NCAA to prioritize Malou's clearinghouse case so that a decision is made by late May.

If I were a betting man, it plays out this way. No NCAA decision is made by May 25. The NCAA piddles the entire summer and announces in mid-August he isn't eligible. Malou ends up playing pro ball overseas.

Ott took 5 months because he kept appealing higher and higher, the Big 10 made the initial decision so not sure what exactly the timeline was of his appeals and such but it's not like the NCAA took 5 months to make one decision. I too am skeptical they would rule by May 25th, Brady Ellingson didn't get medical RS until July 2nd last year. That is a different case though as Brady was clearly coming back to Iowa and was only a freshman.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

If I were Prohm right now, I'd be proceeding as if Malou won't be here. This doesn't sound very promising at all. I don't know as a head coach if you can save an open scholly for someone that has probably a 20% chance of being here?

Based on what? 20% is very specfic considering I haven't seen anything but smoke so far.

 

[isu83]

Or does it start once you play at the college level?

 

[CycloneErik]

Based on what? 20% is very specfic considering I haven't seen anything but smoke so far.

clonedude

 

[SpRiNgLiMe]

Or does it start once you play at the college level?

I believe the concern is about the NCAA "Delayed Enrollment" rule.

The general rule for D-I is that once you enroll full-time at "any college" your 4 year eligibility clock has started, providing you 5 years to use those 4. There are special exceptions that pause the clock, but those aren't applicable for Malou as far as I know.

A bit of a loophole that the NCAA attempts to close is what they consider delayed enrollment. From how I used to understand it (could have changed since 2014 and the rule itself is fairly vague with subjectivity), individuals were given 1 year grace period to enroll full-time at a collegiate institution, after that your clock starts. To make matters worse, the NCAA has been known to hit kids on this if, during that 1 year delay, the kid is playing organized sports they consider that as part of your eligibility.

I don't know all the details on Malou and when he actually graduated high school, but thought I would share my understanding of the issue at hand.

 

[IAStubborn]

Just taking college classes has nothing to do with your athletic eligibility. You can graduate from college without ever playing a sport, go to another school and then play four years there. Your five to play four clock starts once you begin playing a collegiate sport.

That isn't true

 

[cyclones12321]

Who woulda thought we'd need to go to the football forums for positive news

 

[cyclones12321]

Don't do it malou! Dont. Do. It