Loyalty ..... NONE!
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I think I'm afraid of starting completely over. That's why it's a very weary subject for me. I do like how he improved us as a team tho. KJ appears to be one of those coaches that needs time to build his program. Brands and Cael can get the blue children kids because of who they are. I'm completely ok with keeping KJ cause I'm just not sure there is anyone we can that would change us much more than where we have gotten to at this point.
Well the opposite could be said about you. I am tired of reading all about how everything is smelling like roses with the program through your eyes. They are not. There are many things wrong with this program and they aren't going to be fixed by Kevin Jackson. They may not ever get fixed because Pollard couldnt care less about wrestling. I was a big KJ supporter until he pulled Meeks' shirt just to save his job. When that happened I knew he was in it for himself and not for the good of Iowa State wrestling.
The running theme here for the "pro KJ crowd" is that you all want to keep him around because you are afraid that the person who replaces him won't do any better.
That's the biggest load of crap and a complete loser mentality. The status quo crap is ********. You do not win national titles by being mediocre, which is what we are and always will be if there isn't a change made.
That's the biggest load of crap and a complete loser mentality. The status quo crap is ********. You do not win national titles by being mediocre, which is what we are and always will be if there isn't a change made.
Have any problems with spelling cops???
oliceman:oliceman:oliceman:oliceman:oliceman:I am not trying to pick a fight here just looking for a reasonable answer. Who would you suggest that can take Iowa State wrestling to the National contenders/champions we all want? Would it be Robinson, Smith, Brands, Zalesky, or Sanderson? Everyone acts like there is a plethora of great coaches to pick from and there isn't. Since 1989, 25 years, only 4 universities have won NCAA wrestling championships. I am all for getting back to 1987 but I truly wonder who can do it. You about have to take a risk on a current assistant. This is not loser mentality,it is fact.
Hall definitely has benefitted from Escobedo. I hope we are able to hang on to him for awhile! Hope that he can also turn Boston into a stud. Weird that our strength may be in our lower weights next year.
CyAGR, that is the exact point I was getting at when I made my initial post in this thread. As mentioned by you in this thread, wrestling isn't like the other sports that have a plethora of great coaches to pick from. Getting a coach of that caliber right now doesn't seem probable. At this point with the program, not sure a coaching change is the best thing to do. From an AD standpoint, what u want to see from a coach is improvement and KJ is doing that. Granted that improvement may not of been as fast as we wanted to but that always happens when you have a passionate fan base.
Why not take a risk? It may not work out but at least we tried. It may turn out worse than what we have now, but at least we tried. You keep trying until you find the guy that fits the program and takes you to where you want to be. I'm not happy with where we are at and I doubt many are. The cupboard looks to be getting more bare after this season. I don't know who they should hire. But I do know that it is a loser mentality to stay with what you've got because you are afraid of taking risks. The only reason to renew KJ's contract is because you think he can take us to the top. I don't think he can even get us close.
Just because some people don't want KJ's head does not mean they are necessarily "pro KJ" either. There is always some middle ground. He is the current head coach and he HAS improved over his time even if it's taken longer than people wanted. So some people would rather support what we currently have going instead of just tearing people down constantly.
It sounds easy enough to just take a risk and continue to hire new people until you find the right person, but with the turnover that could hurt the program so much more because of constant instability.
THANK YOU!! I was just going to post we are not going to pull away anyany of the current big name wrestling coaches that could get us to the next level at this time. However the next round of greats or should say potential great coaches are the ones that are competing for the 2016. Those are the current wrestlers many of the younger guys have seen wrestling and would love to wrestle for.
Going to pull away cael-nope. brands-nope. robby-nope. smith-nope there are the coaches that have gotten their teams to national titles in my lifetime.
