Jim Schwartz goes at it with Jim Harbaugh
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Wow. There's a Lions fan trying to justify that? Now, I am obviously biased here but Harbaugh shakes his hand and then heads off the field. There wasn't any talking going on or anything like that. He wanted no part of anything more than a quick handshake. Then Schwart goes off the deep end.
This is how I saw it as well. Any profanity came after Harbaugh got chased down.
And as noted earlier. Commented on how Harbaugh handled the situation, but then take a second to look at yourself and see how you handled it as well. Call the guy after the game and speak your words, but chasing him down isn't going to lead to anything beyond what you're already complaining about...
Sorry to pop your bubble, but this Cowboys fan thinks that Harbaugh needs to learn to do his celebrating before and after the handshake with his peer coach, not during. Sure, Schwartz' reaction was a little over the top, but it never would have happened if Harbaugh would have shown a little restraint while shaking his opponent's hand.
I think its a reach to think that how fans are perceiving this is all about team allegiances.
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Fixed that for you. An overzealous handshake is one thing, but chasing another coach down the field, having to be separated from him multiple times is in a totally different category.
Does the "protocol," that Schwartz discussed in his postgame interview, only apply to other coaches?
The first sensible thing you've said, Schwartz' reaction was ridiculously over the top.
Your bias is coloring your view of the 'handshake'.
I don't have a dog(my dog stomped the Vikes sunday night) in this fight but it clearly was a bit more than a handshake. Two guys that like to 'big league' others had their own personal ******* match...
In my best Iverson voice "we talkin 'bout shakin' hands. shakin' hands..."
They were both in the wrong. Two overly-emotional coaches. Too bad they aren't division rivals, maybe they'll meet again in the play-offs.
While Schwartz over-reacted, Harbaugh needs to learn that you don't slap-shake hands and slap the opposing coach on the back as if you're celebrating with one of your own coaches. If he does it again I'm sure he'll get another overreaction, maybe from a player. But Harbaugh has apologized and I hope has learned his lesson on protocol when shaking hands with an upset coach you've just beat, and Schwartz also needs to apologize for his over-reaction.
To me it seemed like Harbaugh just didn't make the appropriate shift from "celebrating with your players" mode to "greeting the opposing coach" mode. He clearly was amped up after a big win and should have toned down the enthusiasm before the handshake. But he didn't push Schwartz. It was more of an exuberant handshake/slap on the back (the type that would usually occur with one of his own players or coaches). Schwartz came off like a crazy person. Hard to see Shanahan/Reid/Dungy, etc acting at all like that. Earlier in the game, after Harbaugh inappropriately challenged a scoring play, Schwartz was shown animatedly screaming "Learn the ******* rules Harbaugh". It's hard for a guy who handles himself this way to cast too many stones on etiquette.
Harbaugh's enthusiasm is much of what makes him a great coach. I think we can safely say he'll tone down his enthusiasm during future opposing coach postgame encounters.
Harbaugh's enthusiasm is much of what makes him a great coach. I think we can safely say he'll tone down his enthusiasm during future opposing coach postgame encounters.
Fair enough, "over the top" then. The point remains, neither is blameless in this situation as some have suggested.
Looks like this thing may have started in the 1st quarter when Harbaugh tried to challenge a Detroit TD and was penalized for doing it...Schwartz was yelling, "know the rules Harbaugh" at the 49ers sideline...and apparently cussing...
I think Schwartz is a tool...
Harbaugh, Schwartz and the first-quarter play that started it all? - Shutdown Corner - NFLÂ Blog - Yahoo! Sports
I think Schwartz is a tool...
Harbaugh, Schwartz and the first-quarter play that started it all? - Shutdown Corner - NFLÂ Blog - Yahoo! Sports
I was glad to see Harbaugh "Dis" Schwartz like that after the game. I cant remember at time where I have seen a coach yell at another coach across the field about a bonehead mistake.
For the record, really like the turn around the Lions have shown under Schwartz and hope it continues for them. Maybe see ya in SF for a playoff game.
I think this is very possible. The Packers are very likely to win the NFC North, with the Lions most likely taking a wild card spot. Assuming the 49ers win the West (looking extremely likely at this point), they would either host a playoff game in the wild card or divisional round (depending on order of finish among division winners). In either event Detroit could well be the visitor. I'm not so sure Detroit is that tough without their massive home field advantage (kudos to that raucous crowd).
