I'm starting to like the idea of Tulane as #12 for the conference
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Let me see about Tulane...
AAU member = good.
Other members in the Big 12 include Iowa State, Kansas, and Texas. Hence, Tulane would actually be, academically, better than most of the rest of the conference.
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Total enrollment = about 12,500
That would be the smallest in the conference, as Baylor is about 15,000 or so. This includes Louisville as the eleventh member before then near 15,000 as well.
Academic endowment = $888.5 million
They have a medical school, so they're kind of cheating on that one, but Iowa State's is about $500 million, so they have us beat on that one.
Football by the Sagarin rankings:
Tulane (174, 135, 141, 148)
ISU (34, 65, 66, 114)
KU (90, 119, 62, 31)
Yeah... they're going to need some work in that department...
MBB:
According to Sagarin, Tulane was 94 in basketball last year. That was better than Texas Tech and Texas A&M in the Big 12. That was also better than TCU, though I do want to say that Louisville and West Virginia both have very strong basketball programs on the whole.
I think, actually, I'm on the side of the OP here. They look like a good addition. They also expand the footprint of the media markets. I think it would require some sort of understanding between the rest of the conference and Tulane itself on putting a much greater emphasis on athletics--particularly on football--than what they have had it in the past, but I think they seem a peer institution with a lot of potential to compete. I would certainly welcome something like...
Big 12 North
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Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Louisville
Oklahoma
West Virginia
Big 12 South
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Baylor
Oklahoma State
TCU
Texas
Texas Tech
Tulane
AAU member = good.
Other members in the Big 12 include Iowa State, Kansas, and Texas. Hence, Tulane would actually be, academically, better than most of the rest of the conference.
Association of American Universities - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Total enrollment = about 12,500
That would be the smallest in the conference, as Baylor is about 15,000 or so. This includes Louisville as the eleventh member before then near 15,000 as well.
Academic endowment = $888.5 million
They have a medical school, so they're kind of cheating on that one, but Iowa State's is about $500 million, so they have us beat on that one.
Football by the Sagarin rankings:
Tulane (174, 135, 141, 148)
ISU (34, 65, 66, 114)
KU (90, 119, 62, 31)
Yeah... they're going to need some work in that department...
MBB:
According to Sagarin, Tulane was 94 in basketball last year. That was better than Texas Tech and Texas A&M in the Big 12. That was also better than TCU, though I do want to say that Louisville and West Virginia both have very strong basketball programs on the whole.
I think, actually, I'm on the side of the OP here. They look like a good addition. They also expand the footprint of the media markets. I think it would require some sort of understanding between the rest of the conference and Tulane itself on putting a much greater emphasis on athletics--particularly on football--than what they have had it in the past, but I think they seem a peer institution with a lot of potential to compete. I would certainly welcome something like...
Big 12 North
---
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Louisville
Oklahoma
West Virginia
Big 12 South
---
Baylor
Oklahoma State
TCU
Texas
Texas Tech
Tulane
BYU = highest financial positives and highest logistical negatives.
That's why Louisville is a clear #1 over them.
I agree now that we already added an Eastern Time zone team it tips the scales away from BYU and toward more outside of the box schools like Tulane. If there's a reason later on to push for 14 teams maybe then BYU/BSU make sense as an add to a west/east 7 team division makeup. The Pac 12 is clearly not interested in BYU/BSU so it's like they are there as a way down the road future option. In 5-10 years the independent thing might look great for them, but more likely they'll want in the B12 or Big East more seeing teams like Utah, TCU and BSU blowing by them as an athletic department.
Is the ACC the only BCS league that's all in one time zone? I think it is. The B12 was in one time zone...for one year
B1G - 2
B12 - 2
SEC - 2
Pac 12 - 2
Big East - 4
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When is the new stadium going to open? I know the Superdome is too big but I'd be down for making the trip if ISU even went there to play Tulane. We are sure as **** are never going to be in the Sugar Bowl.
Very good comments. This move would be a stick in the SEC eye at the same time after they have poached A&M + Mizzou. A lot of folks would mock it initially, but history shows Tulane can be a very good program with the right emphasis and resources. All indications are they are ready to refocus on athletics as well.
I think a bet on Tulane might be a bet that pays back highly in a few years.
Small private school, zero fans, awful at both football and basketball, even the desperate Big East didn't want them...Well, I suppose we could use a new Baylor, now that Baylor has decided to start being good at sports.
Deja Vu
Didn't we already have a huge thread on this some time ago?
I vote no.
If they're not good enough for the SEC I don't think it makes the big 12 look anything but desperate to go after them. Then again, we were pretty desperate after A$M and Mizery left...
Didn't we already have a huge thread on this some time ago?
I vote no.
If they're not good enough for the SEC I don't think it makes the big 12 look anything but desperate to go after them. Then again, we were pretty desperate after A$M and Mizery left...
Tulane biggest positive are AAU status & increased footprint. I'll welcome them in with open arms as number 12. Would become our Vandy, would take them a decade to get up to snuff in everything but baseball.
you got to look at them as how the Big12 would present them: Academic School, new commitment to athletics
PS: Need to look at what Rice is doing right now. Rice & Tulane are two AAU schools in the footprint who are taking major steps to make themselves attractive
My bottom line feeling is that the 12th school will be a AAU school. That pool is Rice,Tulane,Rutgers
you got to look at them as how the Big12 would present them: Academic School, new commitment to athletics
PS: Need to look at what Rice is doing right now. Rice & Tulane are two AAU schools in the footprint who are taking major steps to make themselves attractive
My bottom line feeling is that the 12th school will be a AAU school. That pool is Rice,Tulane,Rutgers
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Holy cow! It held 81,000 in the 30's and hosted multiple superbowls!
What a mistake demolishing that place! I agree that it is a saints town now.... But there may be some worthy consideration here. Great thread!
What a mistake demolishing that place! I agree that it is a saints town now.... But there may be some worthy consideration here. Great thread!
I've kinda liked Tulane for awhile too for all the reasons listed in this thread, plus going to New Orleans for an ISU football game sounds freaking awesome.
I like the idea mainly because it would get us an easy conference win for at least the short term!
They were good enough for the SEC. They left on their own because they decided they didn't want to be in that sleazy conference and wanted to focus more on their academic mission.
There are plenty of good reasons to consider Tulane. I'm convinced it would be proven to be a very good move down the road, but it might take 7-10yrs.
Tulane is a good school. They may not be a football powerhouse right now, but all it takes is some exposure in a good conference like the Big 12. Plus going to 12 means a Championship game!
Have any of you ever been to Louisiana? When we came back from Louisiana, we about pulled over and kissed the ground when we were reentering Iowa. I really do not like the idea of Tulane, heck how would that really help recruiting LSU would get the pick of the litter, and Tulane probably would get there share.
I agree with everything in the OP. I've heard that Louisiana has the highest per capita high school players go on to the NFL (anyone know where to verify that?). If we invite them it's just a matter of time before they are competitive.
I say we go with Louisville and Tulane and end there.
I say we go with Louisville and Tulane and end there.
I think that including Tulane in the big 12 is a very good idea for all the reasons stated in the above posts...
Besides a trip to New Orleans is never a bad idea.....
Besides a trip to New Orleans is never a bad idea.....
