If Haliburton Wins the NBA Finals This Year...
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Not sure Tyrese should have his jersey retired at ISU but the current standard doesn’t fit the state of college sports right now. Some of the players that took this program to levels never seen before still do not have their jerseys in the rafters.
Tyrese will likely be celebrated by the Pacers when his career is over if he continues to play at the elite level he has shown he is capable of. He would likely tell you he doesn’t deserve to have his jersey retired at Iowa State, but he sure is a great representative of our school.
It would be different if he would have been an all-american or something. He had a really good sophomore season but he did nothing in an ISU uniform that is deserving of his jersey being retired. We have a good basketball tradition with a lot of players who accomplished more at ISU than he did who don't have their jersey hanging. The only way he should be considered is if he ends up in the Hall of Fame. Let his NBA career play out more.
Why would Lipsey get his number retired? At the very least shouldn't you be an all-american, multi-year 1st team all-conference, or conference POY. Even Fizer and Tinsley don't have theirs retired. Lipsey has had a great career but is he really more accomplished than someone like say Justus Thigpen or Dedric Willoughby? Set the bar high and keep it that way. We can put these guys in some kind of Ring of Honor.
Nobody is in awe of the exclusive retired jersey club. What is the upside to having the bar set high.
Lipsey is no lock but a big senior season could make it happen. First team all Big 12 and 3rd team all American would make me think he belongs.
You should have accomplishments in an ISU uniform that distinguish you from others. I really don't care about him not graduating but he wasn't an all American, conference POY,.or anything like that while he was here. Accomplishments in an ISU uniform should make up 90% of the criteria. As I said earlier the only way he should get in is if he makes the HOF. I might consider it also if he won a league MVP or was multi year all-NBA. His NBA career is still young. If your're getting in because of mainly your accomplishments as a pro let his career play out first. Don't retire it because he's had a few really good years as a pro. From what I've seen of him so far he's on his way. I love his game and watching him play ball.
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If Ejim/niang/morris are immediately retired after playing career this will die down. If all 3 of them somehow aren’t but also not Fizer, basically zero players ever will be…also Fizer was better than anybody retired, took us furthest and gave up millions to come back for junior year.
I understand what you're saying and don't disagree. Whether it's fair or not the standard for getting your jersey retired has clearly changed based on the success we've had the last 20-25 years. I'm mean if Fred Hoiberg would have played from 2010-2014 instead of 91-95 he probably wouldn't even be up there. We have regularly had great players here the last few decades so I think the standard has changed. I know it has for me personally and I was alive to see almost all the guys on the list play. I get it that some people don't like it but what you accomplished at certain points in ISU history tend to be worth more. Barry Stevens wasn't better than Niang or Ejim but we know why Barry got his retired. He's arguably the guy that started Hilton Magic. You see the same types of things at other programs. Tyrese isn't even up there with Niang, Ejim, and Monte because he wasnt even in the same league as them in terms of accomplishments at ISU. #5 should have been hanging in the rafters for the last 20 years. I've always said that. Marcus was the best player that ever played in a Cyclone uniform. His junior year he was the most dominant power forward I've ever seen offensively in CBB except for Glenn Robinson at Purdue. That includes guys like Corliss Williamson at Arkansas. He could do things that even like Chris Webber couldnt.
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I agree with you. I don't think Haliburton's jersey should be retired
Imho this contradiction/dilemma was already resolved brilliantly by the Olympic banner for Tyrese…and I’m probably his biggest fan listening to or watching all his games.
Fizer not being retired makes 100% of them idiotic past or future. Love JP but hopefully next AD resolves that…it even tarnishes the honor for other guys. He was an absolute force.
The Olympics certainly add to Hali's credentials but to me his post/non ISU career alone still isn't there. Hall of Fame or 4 or more all 1st or 2nd team all-NBA's and i have no issue with it. If he wins a regular season MVP I'll = that to 4 all-NBA teams.
If Haliburton had played more than two years at ISU I would say it's a possibility. Niang should get his number retired before Haliburton. Regardless, Haliburton has been an absolute monster in the playoffs and I'm cheering for the Pacers. OKC is going to be a brutal matchup though.
Why are you arguing with this. This guy is agreeing with you. He’s saying the Olympic banner is perfect because they won’t retire his number.
Having an NBA starting point guard and NBA Champion + Olympic gold medal winner = marketing gold.
Pollard will bend the rules for Halliburton. Maybe award an honorary doctorate degree in exercise science
Pollard will bend the rules for Halliburton. Maybe award an honorary doctorate degree in exercise science
Just have one of the three girls from the shirtless 50 cent club video do his class work for him.
It’s like North Carolina. This is how you blue blood
It’s nice to enjoy watching the NBA again. I’ve definitely become a Pacers fan. Between THB, SGA, Edward’s and Brunson they have made the NBA enjoyable and competitive again. The new era of stars has more of a competitive style and not entitled.
I think you could still make a pretty good case for Fred being up there.
During his senior year Big 8 ranks:
P/g: 3rd
Reb: 8th
Ast: 15th
Stl: 12th
2p%: 2nd
3p%: 2nd
FT%: 1st
FG: 4th
3FG: 2nd
FT: 2nd
Min/g: 1st
All Big 8 First Team (AP and Coaches)
AP Honorable Mention All-America
That's just his senior year.
