Huggins might be in trouble, DUI is good, Bees are bad

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Honestly not sure how reactions would be but I asked a bunch of my friends what their thoughts were. Didn't give any indication that he apologized or if he's in trouble...just shared the audio and asked for thoughts.

Common reaction was along the lines of 'Not good. will he get in trouble? guessing not.'

Several 'it's really bad but who is shocked by this in sports'

One 'who the **** is Bog Huggins?'
I think context matters and in this case it's clearly derogatory. Hell I have black friends who have asked me to say the N word just to hear to me say it and I refuse.

Younger generations I think are less likely to be offended personally but more likely to be against the language, if that makes any sense?
 
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Use a word long enough it becomes 2nd nature. You sometimes have to recondition yourself. It can be THAT hard. Folks may choose not to and they are just a-holes.
I'm done with making excuses for people behaving like bigots. Full stop.
 
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I think context matters and in this case it's clearly derogatory. Hell I have black friends who have asked me to say the N word just to hear to me say it and I refuse.

Younger generations I think are less likely to be offended personally but more likely to be against the language, if that makes any sense?
What?
 
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Knew a guy that we called him the "F-man" Every other word out of his mouth was F*ck". He didn't say it because he was mad. It was just his nature. After awhile you got used to it. Great guy but he just never realized how it could rub people the wrong way.
I mean that's an entirely different situation though
 

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Many people are blowing it off.

That's my point...It was never acceptable, even though it was part of the lexicon and used often in pop culture.

It was normalized because it was ok to use hate speech
. There were no consequences, and it was seen as "cool" to make fun of people for not being straight or not being masculine.
Okay, you are being pedantic. Obviously, it isn't okay or something we should find acceptable.

It is pretty clear they were using the word "acceptable" meaning for that time it was accepted and normalized hate speech.

To be clear, that word and any of its derivations are not okay/acceptable language that we want normalized again. We should be strict and shut it down when it is used, but I think a bit of nuance goes a long way in understanding one another (who likely share the same feelings we do) without shooting our allies.
 

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Okay, you are being pedantic. Obviously, it isn't okay or something we should find acceptable.

It is pretty clear they were using the word "acceptable" meaning for that time it was accepted and normalized hate speech.

To be clear, that word and any of its derivations are not okay/acceptable language that we want normalized again. We should be strict and shut it down when it is used, but I think a bit of nuance goes a long way in understanding one another (who likely share the same feelings we do) without shooting our allies.


This is definitely something that needs to be emphasized.
 

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I believe him. I've been in that exact situation.

I have a buddy who's black that thinks it's funny to hear white people say it, so long as they aren't directing at someone as a slur. He's tried to get me to say it a bunch of times and I won't do it.

He's also frequently the only black person in his social circles, being in rural-ass Iowa, and I think it's his way of disarming racial tension out the gate. His way of saying he's not easily offended and people don't have to walk on eggshells around him as long as they aren't being hateful or mean.
 

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Okay, you are being pedantic. Obviously, it isn't okay or something we should find acceptable.

It is pretty clear they were using the word "acceptable" meaning for that time it was accepted and normalized hate speech.

To be clear, that word and any of its derivations are not okay/acceptable language that we want normalized again. We should be strict and shut it down when it is used, but I think a bit of nuance goes a long way in understanding one another (who likely share the same feelings we do) without shooting our allies.
Please tell me what the nuance is.
 

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I'm very against the word but black guys say that word with their friends all willy nilly. Sometimes they want to tease me cause they know it makes me uncomfortable.
It's absolutely a game for a large chunk of the black population, knowing that they can use it without repercussion and white people are liable to get assaulted for using it.

But all things considered, I don't understand why some white people can't just let them have it. Is it unfair that they can say it and we can't? Sure. You know what else is (unfathomably more) unfair? Getting shot by the police for no reason. Jim Crow laws. Slavery. Just let 'em have this one.
 
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It's absolutely a game for a large chunk of the black population, knowing that they can use it without repercussion and white people are liable to get assaulted for using it.

But all things considered, I don't understand why some white people can't just let them have it. Is it unfair that they can say it and we can't? Sure. You know what else is (unfathomably more) unfair? Getting shot by the police for no reason. Jim Crow laws. Slavery. Just let 'em have this one.
Yeah I don't really care if they use it but I think that word only causes more negativity even when in proper context, so IMO it's better if it just dies.
 

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I haven't seen anyone in this thread say it's ok to use that word.

When people are emotionally charged about an issue, they often stop addressing it in a rational sense.
Al, you said you laughed about what he said on the very first page.
 

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Al, you said you laughed about what he said on the very first page.
Yeah, I did. I laughed because the whole situation was funny. That Bob Huggins confirmed himself as a caustic, out of touch old man. That it was even in his lexicon.

It's funny as hell, the way Blazing Saddles is funny as hell. If you can't find the humor in the situation, I just feel bad for you.