We're better off without him since he would have just ditched us after his first 10-win season.
How confident are you in Paul Rhoads ability to make ISU a winning program
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We're better off without him since he would have just ditched us after his first 10-win season.
Who knows what would of happened if Pollard hired Jim Harbaugh in 2007. Harbaugh wanted the job, but Pollard hired Coach Chizdick. He could have built this program way up in a few seasons and we might have David Shaw. I think what Harbaugh did with Stanford in his time there was remarkable and David Shaw has done an outstanding job keeping that program successful.
...perhaps, but could you have imagined 1st, a 10 win season? Then him possibly naming his successor? I believe coaches with that type of savvy, seem to know things better than their schools AD.
Oh, but never mind the woeful bowl losses to powerhouses Rutgers and Tulsa, where ISU looked almost disinterested in front of legions of Cyclone faithful. Mac's teams were proud to play in bowls. Also, you don't find the last couple of games of 2012 and the season so far in 2013 to be alarming? Really?
Yea, I mean, Stanford has really gone to crap with David Shaw.
Sorry I didn't fully convey my sarcasm there. I never understood the "well we didn't want him because he would have been too successful and bolted" argument. Uhh...... that means we would have been really successful people! Even if only for a short period of time.
And when is it easier to hire a coach: after a very successful coach leaves, with program in good shape? Or after firing a coach who wasn't successful and likely isn't leaving the program in very good shape?
Did I say that? I'm pretty sure I've been pretty critical of the offensive ineptitude since last year. Really, the UNI loss and Baylor loss are the only losses, in general that bother me. A marginally competent offense has this team at 5-1. That gives me hope that if you can get something average on the offensive side of the ball, we could be pretty decent.
My bad. Sometimes I get to reading fast and the sarcasm can go over my head pretty easy.
I have faith in CPR, it may take some more growing pains, but I'm hoping for a payoff. One thing I'd like to know is how much of our offense is dictated to mess, ie, is this really his offense, or is a lot of it "forced" on him?
Jim Harbaugh and Brian Kelly never even gave us a thought. I don't know where you got that idea.
OK...and I've never said that Mac should still be here...I've repeatedly posted that Mac in fact had to go, that something was different from his good years. Maybe the coaching staff, maybe something else. Truth be known, I've increased my giving in the Cyclone Club since the Mac days. I joined the Cyclone Gridiron Club because of CPR. Just alarmed how the team looks (UNI pounding us physically has to raise questions), and I give credit on our attendance to the Cyclone fan base, not CPR. If he was coaching at Purdue, KU, Minn, or Indiana, there'd be 25,000 fans at best in the stands to watch this product.
Wrong. Harbaugh interviewed for this job and wanted it, but Pollard hired Chizik. Brian Kelley also interviewed with Pollard I'm pretty sure.
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We turned down Art Briles too. That was a great decision...
Of course I'm confident in Coach Rhoads. Minus a few exceptions (Saturday), I don't go into football Saturdays expecting blowouts; I fully expect us to be competitive and have a chance to win, a direct result of what CPR has done here so far. McCarney hardly ever beat anyone he "wasn't supposed to." Rhoads has done it every year he's been here (there's still plenty of games left this season). If you had told me even 5 years ago that we would beat ranked teams on the road, win at Nebraska and Texas, beat the #2 team in the nation, all while consistently getting 50K+ fans every game at JTS, I would have laughed and written you off instantly.
My point is that Rhoads has already come a long ways in changing the culture here at ISU. I'm in no way trying to diminish what Mac did for ISU, but anyone who's been following ISU since the McCarney era can attest that there is a different feel now then there was back then. There's an electricity around the football program that was nonexistent a few short years ago. In a way, some of the unrealistic expectations are good; the fanbase as a whole has been more confident in the program the past few years.
Yet a few people on here have already declared that they don't have confidence in Coach Rhoads in ONE down year that we haven't even finished playing yet. Does he have issues that need to be addressed? Absolutely, but let's see what he does in the offseason. Down years are and will always be a part of Cyclone football. As much as I hate comparing us to the squawks, I think CPR could get us to where Kirk has Iowa right now. Win 6,7,8 games a year with a breakout year or two when things go right. Even with their recent success the past decade, Iowa still has down/rebuilding years.
I will be sad the day Paul Rhoads is no longer the coach at ISU. We will not find another coach out there that is as passionate for ISU as CPR. If anyone can get it done at ISU, it's him. McCarney laid the foundation for another coach to come in and take the next step. I still believe Paul Rhoads is that guy.
My point is that Rhoads has already come a long ways in changing the culture here at ISU. I'm in no way trying to diminish what Mac did for ISU, but anyone who's been following ISU since the McCarney era can attest that there is a different feel now then there was back then. There's an electricity around the football program that was nonexistent a few short years ago. In a way, some of the unrealistic expectations are good; the fanbase as a whole has been more confident in the program the past few years.
Yet a few people on here have already declared that they don't have confidence in Coach Rhoads in ONE down year that we haven't even finished playing yet. Does he have issues that need to be addressed? Absolutely, but let's see what he does in the offseason. Down years are and will always be a part of Cyclone football. As much as I hate comparing us to the squawks, I think CPR could get us to where Kirk has Iowa right now. Win 6,7,8 games a year with a breakout year or two when things go right. Even with their recent success the past decade, Iowa still has down/rebuilding years.
I will be sad the day Paul Rhoads is no longer the coach at ISU. We will not find another coach out there that is as passionate for ISU as CPR. If anyone can get it done at ISU, it's him. McCarney laid the foundation for another coach to come in and take the next step. I still believe Paul Rhoads is that guy.
To be fair, my hope in Rhoads has been diminishing ever since the Pinstripe Bowl debacle. He's shown little to me to be more than an average coach.
I didn't think we were physically pounded by UNI and outside of the Baylor game I don't know when the last time I thought we were physically outmatched was. Probably the Missou game or OU/Utah stretch I suppose. I thought the UNI game was a game where the team didn't think they had to show up with their A game and they got punched and unlike last time, they didn't have enough to win. Defensively, I think, again, with the exception of Baylor, we have been alright. Not good, but not complete junk. The offense is junk and I have no way of knowing but I'm hoping it's Mess. It could be CPR though. He could be stubborn in what he wants to do. If that's the case, then maybe he isn't the right guy. Attendance has increased because CPR gave hope to the fanbase through wins for his first 4 years whether it be the bowls or upsets. He's losing it right now and this team needs a strong finish to hold onto a portion of those casual fans who became invested fans.
Mac has more losses than any coach in ISU history. 85 losses over 12 years and a 39.7% winning percentage. That's an average of 7 losses per year in an 11 game season vs. the current 12.
If you want to use somebody to compare to Mac, choose Walden, not CPR.
If you want to use somebody to compare to Mac, choose Walden, not CPR.
Your post caught my attention because going from 3 to 8 might be a bit ambitious, as you alluded to. However, going from possibly 3 to 6 seems a bit more realistic. 2015, when all these RS Freshman and Sophs that are seeing the field this year, are juniors and seniors, we very well could reach that 8 win mark.
