I've said it before, and I'll say it again, but before the 1994 season there was talk of a bowl. That team went 0-10-1.
How bad are we?
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Hard to say how bad we are, but under Rhoads we play like we are very bad, and that's all that matters.
I don't remember that period too well. How was there talk of a bowl after 4 straight losing seasons? Including two 4-win seasons and two 3-win seasons?
I know people get blasted for saying it, but we aren't that bad. Against the 12 teams you listed, we'd win 8-10. We lost two close games against teams better than that list - and got blasted on the road by one of the top offenses in football. We haven't lost to anyone the caliber of the teams on that list. The teams that have beaten us are 15-2 with the losses being TCU (barely) and Baylor. We are just a mediocre team with a brutal schedule.
i still think we win 6 or 7 games with Iowa's schedule.
i still think we win 6 or 7 games with Iowa's schedule.
So, what you're saying is that it's not CPR and staff or the players. It's simply the fact that we have a brutal schedule. BTW, we play every conference team that every other conference team plays. So, they all have brutal scheduled, minus ISU and KU.
I do not think think we are that bad. We are in a conference where we play six superior teams and our non conference is looking strong with two ranked teams. That is eight losses with winning chances in four other games. A true realist would say we are in over our heads each year unless a miracle happens which it can.
It depends on the definition of "improved". Is it based on winning, being competitive, or merely holding a team under half a mile in yardage and less than 9 touchdowns worth of points?
That's not what I am saying at all. We are mediocre in a conference where mediocre doesn't cut it. But that doesn't make us as bad as Kansas. None of the other teams listed in the OP would fare any better in the BigXII
Monumentally bad. Biblical proportions.
I don't have the time or motivation to do such a study, but I'll bet if you compared wins (or losses) to simultaneous improvement in budget and facilities, ISU might be the worst team, and have the worst coaching staff, of all time in such a measure.
I don't have the time or motivation to do such a study, but I'll bet if you compared wins (or losses) to simultaneous improvement in budget and facilities, ISU might be the worst team, and have the worst coaching staff, of all time in such a measure.
There is absolutely no margin for error.
The problem is that we need to get 6 wins out of 3 noncon games, Kansas, and 8 other teams that are much better than the 50th-80th ranked teams in the country.
And this year, we ****** wins over 2 of the worst teams on the schedule down our legs already.
Some people still confuse what we could be with what we are and will be under Rhoads. This team could be better, but under Rhoads there will always be too much keystone cops to win against any team with a pulse.
Yep. Which is why I think people who say stuff like "if we had Mahones" or that we missed on Waters, or anything like that don't get it. Johny Manzeil would have looked terrible under Rhoads. Robert Griffin would have been terrible under Rhoads. Any QB in the country would be terrible under Rhoads.
I don't know, but there was. I was a student at the time, and things went bad really quick. I think perhaps it was a senior laden team? Not sure.
LindenCy speaks the truth. The seniors all wore "Follow Me To A Bowl" t-shirts and Walden went on the speaking circuit saying,"We've brought them as far as we can as athletes. Now it's on them to believe." And everyone bought it. Some of the most skeptical fans I knew at the time were ALL IN on a bowl that season.
Ummmm..... no. We are not mediocre in the Big 12. We are either the worst or 2nd worst team virtually every year, and if you include all of history we are likely the worst Big 12 team there is. Kansas has been very good at times.... not us. Mediocre is the best we've ever gotten to, with the likes of Sage Rosenfels and Seneca Wallace at QB. But generally we are not mediocre, we are just flat out bad.
That's not what he said -- Iowa State is a mediocre team with a schedule full of decent or better teams so that the number of wins does not necessarily reflect how bad the team would be with a more favorable schedule. Heck, the "easy" third of the schedule contains two teams that will be at the upper echelons of their conference in Toledo and Iowa.
I don't think the team is bad, but they are underachieving wrt scoring and winning, and I think that's on the coaches, 100%.
You've got decent o-line play. A running back who might be a star being born. Solid receivers. A defense that, at least sometimes, looks better than competent. Good special teams play (missed kicks excepted).
Yet, the same misfires, the same poor decisions, the same momentum killing errors keep happening. Whether that's due to poor coaching, lack of confidence in the coaches by the players, or just a general "we're not good enough" attitude, doesn't matter.
A big part of coaching is figuring out what you have, and using your strengths to win. You don't keep trying to be something you are not. I think CPR & Company have always looked at it from a standpoint of hiding weaknesses. And that focus on what they can't do, that fear, becomes insidious.
This team is no Cadillac. It's a Chevy. But they are playing and getting results of a Yugo (look it up Millenials). And that's on the coaching staff. I don't think CPR knows how to drive anymore, if he ever did.
You've got decent o-line play. A running back who might be a star being born. Solid receivers. A defense that, at least sometimes, looks better than competent. Good special teams play (missed kicks excepted).
Yet, the same misfires, the same poor decisions, the same momentum killing errors keep happening. Whether that's due to poor coaching, lack of confidence in the coaches by the players, or just a general "we're not good enough" attitude, doesn't matter.
A big part of coaching is figuring out what you have, and using your strengths to win. You don't keep trying to be something you are not. I think CPR & Company have always looked at it from a standpoint of hiding weaknesses. And that focus on what they can't do, that fear, becomes insidious.
This team is no Cadillac. It's a Chevy. But they are playing and getting results of a Yugo (look it up Millenials). And that's on the coaching staff. I don't think CPR knows how to drive anymore, if he ever did.
