How bad are we?

[Wesley]

We played well 45 years ago.

 

[swarthmoreCY]

Ummmm..... no. We are not mediocre in the Big 12. We are either the worst or 2nd worst team virtually every year, and if you include all of history we are likely the worst Big 12 team there is. Kansas has been very good at times.... not us. Mediocre is the best we've ever gotten to, with the likes of Sage Rosenfels and Seneca Wallace at QB. But generally we are not mediocre, we are just flat out bad.

Clonedude going to clonedude.

So, about this year. We consistently lose to mediocre teams or teams with equal or less talent. With this staff we are a at best a 4 win team in any P5. We would probably struggle at times in the MVFC- we fold when things get tough.

 

[Nycclone]

After losing to uni in 94 28-14, eight of those points coming in the closing minutes against their scrubs, walden went around telling everyone that we were gonna go 10-1 and go to the Orange Bowl. That the uni game doesn't matter because we can't count it anyways for bowl eligibility (couldn't count wins against 1-aa to become bowl eligible back then).

LindenCy speaks the truth. The seniors all wore "Follow Me To A Bowl" t-shirts and Walden went on the speaking circuit saying,"We've brought them as far as we can as athletes. Now it's on them to believe." And everyone bought it. Some of the most skeptical fans I knew at the time were ALL IN on a bowl that season.

 

[madguy30]

Aside from a lot of bad/lobsided losses, there's been plenty of games in the CPR era where ISU simply looks disorganized/unprepared. Every program/team has their bad days, but it just seems to happen to ISU more.

I watched KSU last night...I can't say they look all that more athletic than ISU; they're mostly strong fundamentally, and went with what worked, and stuck with it to compete with a good football team.

 

[madguy30]

Clonedude going to clonedude.

So, about this year. We consistently lose to mediocre teams or teams with equal or less talent. With this staff we are a at best a 4 win team in any P5. We would probably struggle at times in the MVFC- we fold when one bad thing happens.

FIFY. Agree with the rest. There's currently nothing about ISU that makes them absolutely capable of being successful in any conference.

 

[Wesley]

FIFY. Agree with the rest. There's currently nothing about ISU that makes them absolutely capable of being successful in any conference.

But we would lay the wood to them in bball.

 

[HandSanitizer]

didn't read post but:

2-4 wins in the B12
4-7 wins in the Big10 (this year since they have an extra fluff game)


thats all.